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1 | Do you pay tithes on whole check or part | Acts 15:1 | jlpangilinan | 64462 | ||
EdB, it is not getting no where! it is you did not disprove my point you asked me to show passages to you but you did not disprove any of my point, I asked you many times where in the bible give you authority to collect tithes you never show this to me. The fact that tithe is prohibited because you are not a descendants of levi are you? are we? If you are not the descendants of levi who give authority to receive tithes. The sense is there is no authority now for a christian to receive tithes, not you not me but the descendant of levi, now who gave the authority to receive tithes? You asked me where the passages prohibit tithes I show one and I asked you if you done other matters of the law and you did not response to it but to put your challenge to e what kind of discussion is this anyway you want me to show scriptures but it is you did not show first. Here is my points again please answers them first and show the scriptures that I asked before asked yours. You write"Your right Johnny nowhere in the New Testament does it say to pay tithes, but it also does not prohibit it. If we following Abraham's example and using a tithe to pay honor and tribute nothing in the New Testament prohibits that." you are wrong in this Christ not prohibit the tithes if you do other part of the law. take a look at this verse. Mt 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Did you observe other part of the law of moses? Did youy kill your brother and sisters if you found them gathering stick in sabbath day? Did you prohibit your self eating food that prohibited by the law of moses? If you said yes then you still bound by the law of moses if said that NO! and Christ called that kind hypocrytes as He told to scribes and pharisees. You have to be consistent EdB when you observe part of the law you must observe evrything in it otherwise Christ will call you hypocrytes. You write:"As for Abraham killing others and bringing back their goods. Abraham was protecting his family and yes I think Jesus would allow that. His disciples carried swords and the main reason for carrying swords is to defend yourself. Notice Jesus never told them to get rid of the swords." Where in the new testament that desciples killed anyone depending themselves? John beheaded is he depended himself or killed anyone depending his own? Paul beheaded after imprisone did he kill someone depending himself? your suggestion is very far from the scriptures: Mt 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. I dont believed that Christ will allow this, he never required anyone to give tithes to Him, How come that He will happy receving a tithes if I took it to my enemies after killing them. Again, Your suggestion is very far from the teaching of Christ: Mt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; I dont think I will love my enemies by killing them or blessed them by taking thier goods and give it to the lord part of my tithes. Thanks for your suggestion anyway. You write "I’m not a descendant of Levi, however I am a royal priest, a chosen race, a holy nation and I do declare the excellencies of Him who called me out of darkness into his marvelous light." Then who gave you the Authority of receiving tithes? Can you show me based on the bible that you are now have the Authority receving tithes can you please show me the scriptures backing up your claim. Did paul collect the tithes? Where in the scriptures that paul being paid for his evangelistic work where is that? Can you show any desciples that received thier salaries from the church? Please show me. I know paul support himself by a tentmaker not by collecting tithes. Pastors that receive salaries is not in the bible, because desciples never collect salaries, because they know the teaching of Christ:Now if can show me any desciples that collect thier salaries please do. The primary topic here is the tithe please dont jump for any topic that you want. Those are my point just answer them and show the scriptures that I requested and I promised I will answers your points. Just answer them one by one with a backup of scriptures. Show me also the scritures ans I will answers yours. If you fail to answers those then, I am sorry I will stop the discussion. God bless, Johnny |
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2 | Do you pay tithes on whole check or part | Acts 15:1 | EdB | 64501 | ||
Johnny I really don’t know why I bothered but here are your questions. With the answer to them right below. You write"Your right Johnny nowhere in the New Testament does it say to pay tithes, but it also does not prohibit it. If we following Abraham's example and using a tithe to pay honor and tribute nothing in the New Testament prohibits that." you are wrong in this Christ not prohibit the tithes if you do other part of the law. take a look at this verse. MY ANSWER: First this does not prohibit tithes. It is just saying if your going to try to keep the law you need to keep it all, especially the more weightier or important parts. You write:"As for Abraham killing others and bringing back their goods. Abraham was protecting his family and yes I think Jesus would allow that. His disciples carried swords and the main reason for carrying swords is to defend yourself. Notice Jesus never told them to get rid of the swords." Where in the new testament that desciples killed anyone depending themselves? John beheaded is he depended himself or killed anyone depending his own? Paul beheaded after imprisone did he kill someone depending himself? your suggestion is very far from the scriptures: Mt 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. MY ANSWER: This is another issue much more involved than this thread needs right now. It has been discussed and do a search on the word “sword”. If you want ot discuss it with me I think two things need to happen. First you need to start reading what I say and second we need to start a new thread. Then who gave you the Authority of receiving tithes? Can you show me based on the bible that you are now have the Authority receving tithes can you please show me the scriptures backing up your claim. MY ANSWER: Nobody said you have to be a Levite to receive a tithe. Tithes were paid to Kings, Sultans, and queens. As I have told you it was a way to show honor and tribute. The Bible even shows a non Levite Melchizedek receiving a tithe. Did paul collect the tithes? Where in the scriptures that paul being paid for his evangelistic work where is that? MY ANSWER; in 2 Cor. 11:8 I robbed other churches by taking wages from them to serve you; Can you show any disciples that received their salaries from the church? MY ANSWER: Luke 10:7 "Stay in that house, eating and drinking what they give you; for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not keep moving from house to house. Please show me. I know paul support himself by a tentmaker not by collecting tithes. MY ANSWER: Your right Paul did support himself in many cases but he did take pay (see above). Plus he taught that a pastor should be paid. 1 Cor. 9:14 So also the Lord directed those who proclaim the gospel to get their living from the gospel. Galatians 6:6 The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him. 1 Tim. 5:18 For the Scripture says, "YOU SHALL NOT MUZZLE THE OX WHILE HE IS THRESHING," and "The laborer is worthy of his wages." 1 Cor. 9:11 If we sowed spiritual things in you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? 1 Tim. 5:17 The elders who rule well are to be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching. Pastors that receive salaries is not in the bible, because desciples never collect salaries, because they know the teaching of Christ:Now if can show me any desciples that collect thier salaries please do. MY ANSWER: Already did see above Luke 10:7 Johnny stop proof texting look what Paul is teaching. I have clearly given scriptures showing Paul taught a pastor should be paid. I have referred you to books that will teach you on Middle Eastern customs of tithing. I have taught you on the need to support that which benefits you. If you do not want the benefits of tithing in your life. Okay but stop proclaiming they are wrong. The only part that is wrong is if you pay tithe under the law. EdB |
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3 | Do you pay tithes on whole check or part | Acts 15:1 | jlpangilinan | 64567 | ||
I answered all of this in my other note. |
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4 | Do you pay tithes on whole check or part | Acts 15:1 | EdB | 64583 | ||
Johnny You didn't anser you proof texted. Tell me why a pastor should not be paid in light of these verses. 1 Cor. 9:14 So also the Lord directed those who proclaim the gospel to get their living from the gospel. Galatians 6:6 The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him. 1 Tim. 5:18 For the Scripture says, "YOU SHALL NOT MUZZLE THE OX WHILE HE IS THRESHING," and "The laborer is worthy of his wages." 1 Cor. 9:11 If we sowed spiritual things in you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? 1 Tim. 5:17 The elders who rule well are to be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching. EdB |
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