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1 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | EdB | 98586 | ||
Taleb Let me ask one question what does the Koran say should be done to those that will not accept Islam? EdB |
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2 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | Taleb | 98670 | ||
Greetings, EdB. Good question. It’s rather difficult to answer some questions when the questioner limits the question to a few words, but I’ll take a stab at it nonetheless. Forgive me if I am “assuming” you already have an answer in mind. But, as I stated already under this “topic”, the Quran contradicts itself over and over. I’ll quote the Quran to answer your question. I have chosen Surah 9:29: “Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that Allah have forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the religion of truth, …” Let me interrupt myself here for a moment. EdB, does this portion of Quran sound like what you are asking about? Assuming that it does, I will continue with what the Quran says should be done to those that will not accept Islam. Continuing in that same “verse” where I left off – “…until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.” This is what the Muslims did to the Christians, the Jews and the Persians (until Iran converted) – tax them. They would kill some to gain control – than TAX them heavily in oppression. My, it sounds familiar, doesn’t it? Israel does that same thing to the Palestinians today. And it is very similar to what took place in the “Old Testament days.” One would think that the Lord would grow weary of the same old same old throughout HIS-story. Anyway, EdB, I trust this short answer to your question helps you and others understand. Blessings, Taleb P.S. Perhaps if we joined in and sang the Arab Christians' song of peace, peace would finally come. "'Salam salam li sha'b el rab fi kulli makan."(Their cry is my cry - "Peace, Peace to God's people everywhere.") |
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3 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | EdB | 98744 | ||
Taleb First the problem is not with Arab's. The problem is with Islam. Yes the Koran does contradict itself many places however Isalm is intent on converting the whole world to Islam. Apparently when Muhammad started his new movement, he encouraged nonbelievers to freely consider Islam: Sura 2:256 says, “Let there be no compulsion in religion.” Later, however, he seemed to have developed a much harsher attitude: Sura 9:5 says, “Fight and slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and seize them, and besiege them, and lie in wait for them.” What may be considered crimes against the state and crimes against God are dealt with in Sura 5:33, “The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land.” Jews and Christians are “People of the Book” (Sura 5:5; 5:19), but that does not mean that Muhammad had the highest regard for them; in Sura 5:41 Jews are called people “who will listen to any lie” and Christians are enemies (Sura 5:14), and Muslims were not to have Christians and Jews as friends (Sura 5:51). Then there is history itself. Some of the more recent examples of the 50,000 Greeks and Armenians massacred in 1822, the 10,000 Armenians and Nestorians murdered in 1850, 11,000 Maronites and Syrians in 1860, 15,000 Bulgarians in 1876, 10,000 Armenians in 1894, 325,000 Armenians from 1895–1908, 30,000 Armenians in 1909, and 80 percent of the Armenian population (1.5 million) wiped out in 1915–1918, religious persecution has been a frequent occurrence under Islam. Idi Amin Dada murdered at least 300,000 fellow Ugandans in the 1970s. In the ’80s and ’90s, Muslim Arabs in North Sudan were either starving or selling into slavery Black Christians and animists in the South. Oppression against non-Muslims in general, but Christians in particular, has also occurred in Libya, Mauritania, Nigeria, and Tanzania. In 1990 it was believed that Mauritania had at least 400,000 slaves. I think the picture is fairly clear you either become a follower of Allah or you become a slave or die. EdB |
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4 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | Taleb | 98898 | ||
EdB, you are so right – well, almost anyway. I hear what you are saying, and, basically, it’s true. One thing you don’t seem to see in what has happened throughout HIS-story, is it isn’t ONLY “you either become a follower of Allah or you become a slave or die”, it’s even worse. At the same time - it's exciting, the great things our God is doing amongst those HE WANTS to come unto Him. Remember the war between Iraq and Iran? Both are Muslim countries, where, during that outrageous war each side slaughtered the other under the “permission and sanction of Allah”. It reminds me of Joseph’s words in Genesis – sort of. What Satan meant for evil, God made good things happen as a result. Until that war, Iranians had NO reason to seek the face of the Lord our God. Mothers in Iran watched their sons being forced to march out for the purpose of being slaughtered. (Perhaps, you recall the horrific scenes depicted on TV every night, months on end.) The Iranians image of Islam was gravely and quickly questioned. The result. By the thousands, they received, accepted and believed the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini ruled, with an iron fist, THE MUSLIMS. The result? Many fled their country, and many have come richly into the saving grace of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus the Christ. I buy gas from such a “refugee.” One Iranian found Christ because there was no Mosque here, so she would go into a huge Baptist Church for her prayer time. You ought to listen to her talk about "how Jesus, God's Son delievered her from the bondage of Islam." Powerful lady. While in the Middle East I worked side by side with a Lebanese man. He had been a soldier fighting with and against other Lebanese citizens in Lebanon. The three “religions” The Shiites, the Sunnis, the “Christians” all fought the two other sides. My friend BECAME a follower of Jesus Christ after losing his leg during a battle with his fellow country-men. So, if you can hear what I am saying, Paul IS CORRECT. We, as believers, don’t fight against flesh and blood, but against the principalities and powers that “control” them. And, EdB, GOD is winning the battle. I, today, have personal friends working in Iraq, Philippines, Albania and Pakistan. These American friends, who have made their home in those countries, are personal friends of mine. I’m not talking about someone who passed out a “prayer card” in some mission service. I’m talking - sitting in my home, let’s eat, talk, pray, laugh, cry - friends. Please pray for them as they serve OUR God. One such set of friends returned from Pakistan to have a baby. Now that the baby is a few months old they are moving back - this time to Afghanistan to live and work. Blessings, Taleb |
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5 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | EdB | 98918 | ||
Taleb Once again you appeal to me about the people of the Islamic Nations and as I have said they are not the problem. The problem is Islam. Am I glad to see men, women, young boys and girls come out from under Islam and receive Jesus? Yes, nothing excites me more. However if we try to paint Islam as a kinder gentler religion we are doing ouselves and those that left Isalm a disservice. Islam is a brutal, hateful religion that is quickly spreading throughout the world. In my city alone there are three Mosques when 10 year ago there were none. EdB |
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6 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | flinkywood | 98922 | ||
EdB, Islam is a threat to the world for sure. I have a friend, a former Muslim, now an evagelist, who warned our church that Muslims are actively seeking to convert young Christian girls. This sounds conspirational, but he spoke it as fact, and I take it as such. Islam threatens and must be confronted, but how? Should we blast it from the pulpit a la Franklin Graham, or should we go to them as Christ would go to them? This is a hard question. They are in bondage, how can we as Christians best set them free? Colin |
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7 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | EdB | 98923 | ||
Colin We live in a nation/world of people that will believe anything someone tells them. The media for various reasons have after 911 painted Islam as group of really nice people that in most ways are far nicer and more peace loving than your average intolerant and sometimes down right hateful fundamentalist Christian. So yes we do have to set the record straight ala Franklin Graham as you say. But we also have reach out to the people of Islamic nations in an effort to show them Jesus loves them and so do we. We can not should not try to portray Islam as anything other than what it is, a hateful, demeaning, war mongering, intolerant, chauvinistic, overbearing, enslaving religion, that almost dehumanizes the individual for the benefit of the many. EdB |
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8 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | flinkywood | 98930 | ||
EdB, Christ died for us while we were still sinners, so He died for these souls too. Islam is all of these things for sure, but not universally. Not every Muslim is ready to kill for Allah. As for Christian tolerance, I actually heard a Christian, a minister raised among Muslims in Azerbaijan, say that America should just bomb Iraq to death, kill all of them, because he knew what beasts Muslims really were. Now, how is this man going to defeat Islam in America without a sidearm? Perhaps we meet the "enemy" in a peaceful setting, under the shelter of mutual dialogue. Perhaps we hand out biblical tracts over a good meal, compare our faiths, quote scripture, pray for the truth, introduce them to Christ, then plan to meet again. This will require us to become stealthy, not strident, to know our adversary and to educate ourselves about his faith in order to free him from it. The times seem to call for this, and I bet it'll win more souls than enemies. Colin |
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9 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | EdB | 98944 | ||
Colin I have shared Jesus with many Muslims and had the privilege of seeing a few come to the Lord. My heart is for everyone of them to come to saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. But I don’t see how soft selling Islam is the answer. Today our prisons are methodically being converted to Islam, many inter city after school care centers are actively being used by Muslims to enlist young children into Islam. Islam is being painted as a peaceful, gentle religion that places no requirement on it’s adherent other than living in peaceful healthy life aside from the morally corrupt lifestyle of present day America. We both know this is totally and completely wrong, young children are being indoctrinated that to sacrifice their lives brings the reward of eternal bliss. That Allah demands they be willing to die for his cause. That Israel and the Jews have stolen their land and are forcing them into exile. That the west lead by the US are supporting this policy of oppression and therefore is an enemy. All of this is of course untrue, the land which is now Israel was basically unwanted by anyone prior to the beginning resettlement of Israel in 1919. The land which is now called Israel was given to Abraham by God himself with the pledge it would always be in Jewish hands. The dome of the rock was very minor monument of Islam being in almost total disrepair until it became an object of political discussion. Once again the problem is not our perception of Islam if we view it for what it really is. The problem is the Islam itself is poisoning the hearts and minds of it’s adherents against anything that is not Islam. We have to call Islam for what it is, a hateful, belligerent philosophy intent on stamping out anything that opposes it. Am I forwarding the idea we should go bomb Islam out of existence? No! But I am saying we need to understand and be fully aware of what Islam is. Islam if it had the capability would not think twice to bomb all non Islamic people out of existence. You said not all Muslims are ready to kill for Allah. However according to the Koran to be a true Muslim the opposite must be true. Any Muslim that is not willing to die for Allah or to kill for Allah is not a true follower they are to much of this world and will not receive the rewards of a true adherent to Islam. EdB |
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10 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | flinkywood | 98950 | ||
EdB, I feel exactly as you do about Islam, and believe that we are already at war with Islam both here and beyond. I agree that we need to educate Americans about this threat to our existance and to defy Islam's "invasion" of America; however, the attack come along several fronts. We must invade them, undermine them, convert them. How we do this is my question. Any ideas? Colin. |
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11 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | EdB | 98974 | ||
Colin I think invading them because they are Muslims would be wrong. I think what needs to be done is let the truth be told. Let the world see how wives are set afire and die horrible deaths because this is a way for the husband to get rid of them. Let the world see and hear the teaching of the young children on how they should be willing to die for Allah. The black world needs to know how true Islam views them not as equals but as a lesser race. Education of the truth will destroy the myth of Islam EdB |
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12 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | flinkywood | 98976 | ||
I meant invade them in the figurative sense, by witnessing to them. Colin. |
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13 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | EdB | 98981 | ||
Colin Okay you had me a little worried there. :-) EdB |
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14 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | flinkywood | 99000 | ||
EdB, I'd be worried about myself too if I didn't know myself better. Colin |
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15 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | EdB | 99014 | ||
Colin LOFL! I know what you mean! EdB |
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