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1 | Why Could He Not Do Many Miracles? | Luke 9:42 | Immanuelsown | 207135 | ||
Steve, I'm not offended, nor have I been, I answered as I did, in order for you to fully understand, I was not speaking out of someone else's beliefs. ie.(Commentaries) Or for other people, as per. your questions. # 1, 2 1) "Can you help me understand why people look for another reason in this passage?" 2) " And further more, why it is those that do seem to look for a reason based on the people and not Jesus?" I cannot speak for others beliefs, I only state my own. As I read, and study, I find what I can live with, as far as belief goes. The point is, the scripture in question, isn't something that is a hinge, to my salvation. Therefore I personally am satisfied with my own belief, as to why not many mighty works were done there. Ask yourself this question.) There are thousands, upon thousands of people that believe Benny Henn has a Ministry of Healing form God. (If you were sick with cancer, would you go to him?) If not why? I am not arguing the point that the people did not believe, I am saying that the possibility exists, the non-belief is (was) the motivating factor. If there is anyone out there in the Forum, that can point out the GREEK in this matter, it would be greatly appreciated. Is there any way in the Greek to prove one way or the other? Look, you are saying Jesus chose not to do any miracles, I am saying the people chose not to ask him, because of their UN - BELIEF. I can fully see, and fully accept what you are saying. It doesn't make a difference, or change who Jesus is. "JESUS CHRIST IS KING, OF KINGS AND LORD, OF LORDS" I'm not here to argue, and debate I'm here to learn, as you are. Eph. 4:3 The differences in our opinions, are what make this FORUM possible, we come from different backgrounds, with different experiences, that cause all of us to believe what, and how we do, your not wrong, I'm not right, were different that's all. "This is the kind of thing, that has fragmented the Body of Christ" Amos 3:3 In Him Imm |
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2 | Why Could He Not Do Many Miracles? | Luke 9:42 | humbledbyhisgrace | 207138 | ||
Imm, I'm glad your not offended! And thanks for pointing out why you responded to my questions the way you did. I can see what you are saying on that point. I was in error grouping you that way with others in an attempt to not come across as if I was singling you out in error. Imm, your comments "As I read, and study, I find what I can live with, as far as belief goes. The point is, the scripture in question, isn't something that is a hinge, to my salvation. Therefore I personally am satisfied with my own belief, as to why not many mighty works were done there." John 17:17 (NASB) "Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth." Matthew 4:4 (NASB) "But He answered and said, "It is written, 'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.'" Because thousands of people believe "Benny Henn has a Ministry of Healing" doesn't necessarily mean that their salvation is at stake either, but it does prove that a lack of understanding the scripture and/or one who clings to their own belief not founded in scripture can easily be lead astray and taken advantage of. and You say "The differences in our opinions, are what make this FORUM possible, we come from different backgrounds, with different experiences, that cause all of us to believe what, and how we do, your not wrong, I'm not right, were different that's all." Perhaps it was not your intent, but this last statement in context with your post smacks of relativism. So that I don't put words in your mouth, let me simply ask, is that what you are teaching here? It is not what is right for me and what is right for you, it is what is right in God’s eyes that you and I both must come to understand and agree to. Steve |
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3 | Why Could He Not Do Many Miracles? | Luke 9:42 | Immanuelsown | 207148 | ||
Steve, Your saying (he chose) not to do miracles, because of (their unbelief.) OK, Lets look at from the other direction then. (Brackets, and Capitals for Emphasis) Matthew 4:24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they ( BROUGHT UNTO HIM ALL SICK ) people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them. Matthew 12:15 But when Jesus knew it, ( HE WITHDREW HIMSELF FROM THENCE:) and ( GREAT MULTITUDES FOLLOWED HIM,) and he healed them all; Luke 4:40 Now when the sun was setting, ( ALL THEY THAT HAD ANY SICK ) with divers diseases (BROUGHT THEM UNTO HIM;) and he laid his hands on every one of them, and healed them. Luke 6:17 And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people out of all Judaea and Jerusalem, and from the sea coast of Tyre and Sidon, (WHICH CAME TO HEAR HIM, AND TO BE HEALED OF THEIR DISEASES;) Luke 6:19 ( AND THE WHOLE MULTITUDE SOUGHT TO TOUCH HIM:) for there went virtue out of him, and healed them all. It appears from the preceding verses, when the people (did believe) they came (TO) him, sought him out, tried to touch him, when he withdrew they followed. In light of these scriptures, using your reasoning, what then is the determining factor, as to why (he chose) to heal them all? Was it their belief (alone) or was it in conjunction with the actions (movement) they took towards him? Because we see, there were many healed? What I am saying is, there belief (faith) mixed with the action (seeking), caused the Virtue of God, to flow thereby causing the miracles. God wants for all to be (healed, saved,) but that event cannot take place in our lives until we come to HIM. Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: ( FOR HE THAT COMETH ) to God must believe that he is, and that he is a ( REWARDER OF THEM THAT DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM.) In Him Imm |
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4 | Why Could He Not Do Many Miracles? | Luke 9:42 | srbaegon | 207150 | ||
Hello Imm, Different Steve here. Since faith is proved by its action, we can say the people had faith that Jesus could heal and acted accordingly. However, in no wise would I ever say that the evidenced faith CAUSED the flow. That would place me as sovereign over God--a horrible thought. Steve |
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5 | Why Could He Not Do Many Miracles? | Luke 9:42 | Immanuelsown | 207155 | ||
srbaegon, OK, lets work out the wording. If I have a gun that is loaded, my faith that it can kill, will not make it fire, it takes my finger pulling the trigger. The evidenced faith here is my finger pulling the trigger, I then get my desired result. What it comes down to is, God has something for us in his sovereignty, we have to come to Him and ask, before he will give it to us. Heb 4:5 And in this place again, (If they shall enter) into my rest. God has prepared a rest for His people. (ME,) entering into that rest provided for me, does not place me as sovereign over GOD. It is his Gift, all his. How could my accepting a gift prepared for me, from the foundations of the world, place me in a position of sovereignty over him, who has prepared it for me? All Healing, Deliverance, Salvation, and whatever else you can think of, that God has prepared for those that love Him, ALL are sovereign gifts. Only He, as the God of the Universe, the Only Wise God, can provide those gifts. The only stipulation to receiving any of these gifts is, you must go to the giver of the gift, you cannot get it any other way. The flow of the virtue is always present with GOD, our action releases it. For without faith we can do nothing. In Him Imm |
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6 | Why Could He Not Do Many Miracles? | Luke 9:42 | CDBJ | 207156 | ||
Greetings, God has a plan for my life and I’ve entered this plan of God’s, called grace, by an undivided trust in His precious unique Son, Jesus the Christ. Since I am a child of God, John 1:12, everything that God does for me comes as a result of His grace: grace is all that God is free to do for me on the basis of the cross. If I suffer ill health it’s for God’s purpose, Romans 8:28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 1 Thes. 5:18 in everything give thanks; for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. God’s grace is sufficient for all my needs be they joyous or unpleasant sufferings. God is 0mnipresent which means that I don’t have to go to any specific place to receive His grace blessings. Christ made provisions for me to enter the throne room of heaven into the very presence of God when I am in need of help from any location there is and at any time, and on top of that I can have confidence with boldness because of what Jesus accomplished for me on the cross. Hebrews 4:14-16 Since then we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin. 16Let us therefore draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and may find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 4:1 Therefore, let us fear lest, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you should seem to have come short of it. Grace be to you this day, CDBJ |
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