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1 | cursing? | Luke 6:28 | cloud | 154334 | ||
I used to go to this church and the pastor would speak curses on people that would leave. Can a so-called pastor do this. | ||||||
2 | cursing? | Luke 6:28 | javelin | 154484 | ||
For the original question - "...can a pastor do this?" Absolutely not. This is nothing more than religious witchcraft. The so-called pastor ought to be severely rebuked by his overseers for such a thing. This person also should be required to go make restitution to those he cursed. IMO 99 percent of curses uttered by Xtians are totally outside of God's will as the scripture, as noted, teaches the contrary. People like that "pastor" are usually very insecure, proud, mean, hateful and bitter. They are usually occupied with building their own little kingdoms and not Gods. They also usually have unconfessed secret sins that keep them in darkness. So, they don't even realize how seriously wrong their words are. "Death and life are in the power of the tongue" "whoever curses his father or his mother shall have his lamp put out in obscure darkness" Proverbs has a lot to say about the words we speak and their ability to give life or death. There are lots of "looneys" out there in the church ! ;) (mr. spurgeon once said that "we are all a little touched") but cursing other xtians for not doing our will is one of the worst forms of sin in the church today. The problem is that cursing does indeed have serious consequences. We need to recognize the power of words and use our big mouths to bless and speak life, health, strength and encouragement to all - not just xtians. |
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3 | cursing? | Luke 6:28 | cloud | 154498 | ||
Thank you! I prayed for the right people to answer my question. Let me ask you this. There is a reason it has been bothering me lately. We left his church and went to another one. It is a good church nothing like that goes on. But on special events the pastor of our church invites our old church. And our new pastor, I'm pretty sure he knows that this stuff would go on over there. I like our new pastor, he is humble, he has sound doctrine, I just don't see how he could encourage and this man if he even knows half the stuff. | ||||||
4 | cursing? | Luke 6:28 | javelin | 154501 | ||
If I understand you right I would say that the new pastor is applying good old "respect" towards the other. Perhaps he feels it is none of his business. Perhaps he is waiting for God's opportunity before saying anything. He is probably already praying for that other pastor. In any case, when you see a pastor that curses others, you know he needs to be strongly corrected and you should not feel guilty for leaving. Witchcraft like that is basically defined as, "attempting to use supernatural means to acheive one's own ends with others" When xtians do it the supernatural means is God, though God will have nothing to do with it - except perhaps turning it on our own dumb heads to teach us a lesson! In the worst case, if you suspect this cursing pastor has been cursing you, then you should pray blessings on him. "Overcome evil with good" You should also know that "the curse without a cause shall not come"(prov.) to you. Pray that the verse applied to Israel be your lot - "Num. 23:23 Surely enchantment can do nothing against Jacob; Neither is there any divination against Israel" Cursing like that is a form of "casting spells" - that's it, that's all. The devil loves it when xtians do this to one another! One brother put it this way : It's like shooting a prayer arrow into the sky. Because it is wrong it bounces off heaven and the devil grabs it on the way back down. He breaks it in 2 and throws one piece at the person who shot it and the other at the person it was shot against. Both suffer the darts of the enemy. It's not for nothing that Paul wrote : "Rom. 12:14 Bless them that persecute you; bless, and curse not." funny how he repeats it eh !?! cause he knows what we're like !! ... "17 Render to no man evil for evil...." "18 If it be possible, as much as you can, be at peace with all men. 9 Do not avenge yourselves, beloved, but give place unto the anger 'of God': for it is written, Vengeance belongs unto me; I will do the pay back, says the Lord. 20 But if your enemy hungers, feed him; if he thirsts, give him to drink: for in so doing you will heap coals of fire upon his head. 21 Don't be overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good." Sounds simple and clear though it is not always easy. blessings! ;-) |
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5 | cursing? | Luke 6:28 | mark d seyler | 154503 | ||
What are "xtians"?? ""When xtians do it the supernatural means is God,"" What is your scriptural support? God is not our puppet! ""One brother put it this way : It's like shooting a prayer arrow into the sky. Because it is wrong it bounces off heaven and the devil grabs it on the way back down. He breaks it in 2 and throws one piece at the person who shot it and the other at the person it was shot against."" This has nothing to do with what prayer is, and does not take into account how God works. Please base your posts on scripture. |
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6 | cursing? | Luke 6:28 | Wild Olive Shoot | 154504 | ||
What are xtians?? Well, based on a previous response given to the same question, the "x" represents CHI. So I think the reference is to chitians? Your guess is as good as mine. WOS |
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7 | cursing? | Luke 6:28 | mark d seyler | 154507 | ||
Hi Wild Olive Shoot, With a little help from google, turns out Chitian is a Chinese first name. Perhaps Javelin is referring to certain people from China, who are all named Chitian? Seems a little odd to me... Mark |
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8 | cursing? | Luke 6:28 | DocTrinsograce | 154509 | ||
Isn't that also the stuff from which a beetle's exo-skeleton is made? | ||||||
9 | cursing? | Luke 6:28 | mark d seyler | 154512 | ||
Hmmmm.... chinese beetles cursing. Let's get back to the Bible :-) |
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10 | cursing? | Luke 6:28 | DocTrinsograce | 154514 | ||
Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the BEETLE after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind. But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you. (Leviticus 11:22-23) Unto the MEN OF THE EAST with the Ammonites, and will give them in possession, that the Ammonites may not be remembered among the nations. (Ezekiel 25:10) Is that better? :-) |
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11 | cursing? | Luke 6:28 | mark d seyler | 154516 | ||
Thanks, Doc, I needed a good laugh! But didn't the ammonites have a spiral calcified shell? Happy Friday! Love you, brother :-) Mark |
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