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1 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Matt 12:40 | Jesusman | 192298 | ||
Something that might help clarify and edify what has already been said here. A former doctrine professor of mine had a newspaper clipping dated back in the 50's if memory serves, from a mediteranean newspaper that speaks of a fishing boat being tossed around and that a sailor fell overboard. He was swallowed by a whale, and believed dead. The fishing boat found the whale 4 days later and caught it. When they cut it open, they found their crew mate inside the whale still alive. His skin was very pale and sickly from the stomach acids eating away at his skin. It took him a few days to recover. This story gave credibility to the Book of Jonah that such an event really could have happened. |
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2 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Matt 12:40 | stjohn | 192320 | ||
No offense Jesusman, but that is a pretty fantastic story, especially sense there is no whale, or fish, or [any] animal of any kind known to earth that can swallow a man whole. if you want to bring someone to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, please don't try it with a story like that one. You should not insult their intelligence by "blowing sunshine up their nose" like that. Faith comes by hearing the word of God, and His Word will not come back void, it will convict, convince or condemn. The Holy Spirit works through the Word of God. If facts could save, or seeing the truth could save, then why were so many that saw Jesus in person perform sings and wonders not saved? Seeing is not believing when it comes to saving faith. Only God can change a mans heart. Our job is to give out the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit does the rest. God bless John |
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3 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Matt 12:40 | Jesusman | 192321 | ||
Actually, I read the story first hand, so it's not a "fantastic story". Also, there are accounts of Sperm Whales growing large enough to be able to hold a man inside. Also given the hebrew word could also mean fish, there are accounts of sharks being found with a whole horse inside. There is evidence there, if you are willing to actually look. As for supporting religious claims with supportable and researchable fact, tell me this. Who would you be more willing to listen to and take seriously? A person who talks of ghosts, spirits, drinking blood, eating flesh, and believing in something you can't see, hear, taste, smell, or feel? Or someone who talks to you about events in history and mentions the proofs and is willing and able to back up every single claim with historical evidence? Between the two .. I would dismiss the first person as a street corner shaman that needs to see a doctor and talk to the later. Jesusman |
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4 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Matt 12:40 | stjohn | 192329 | ||
" How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!" However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?" So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ." Romans 10:14-17 By the way, I read snow white "first hand".... Hmm... Does that make it a true story? I have also read that they found a half boy half alligator in Florida, I think it was in a newspaper article. at the check stand in a market. Sadly,... I have found that more, much, much more people, are willing to believe in a half boy half alligator then will believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. But, we should still stick to the Gospel, and not stories of horses in the bellies of sharks. God bless John |
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5 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Matt 12:40 | BradK | 192330 | ||
Hi John, I think you're making more of an issue on this matter than needs be? I did not read Jesusmans' report of this incident as a substitution for the gospel or that it was relayed as "a fantastic tale"! Show a little grace, my friend:-) (As an FYI-Here in the Puget Sound region of the NW, Great White Sharks are a very rare sighting. Yet, I recall 2-3 years ago I personally read a report by someone from the Tacoma Pt. Defiance Zoo that one had indeed been sighted in those waters. While this has no direct bearing upon this thread, the "fantastic: and bizarre do occur.) My take on his comments was only that the example served to add credibility to the story of Jonah! Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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6 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Matt 12:40 | stjohn | 192331 | ||
Hi Brad Sorry if I seem to be ungraceful, but, the story would indeed give credibility if it were possible it was credible. Although there are sharks and whales large enough to hold a man in their bellies, their throats are not large enough to accommodate something that large. In the case of the sperm whale for instance [the largest carnivore on the planet] their esophagus is not much larger then a big grapefruit. MY brother this thread has strayed to far from the intent of this forum so this will be my last word. I had no intention for it to go even as far as it has, I was just attempting to bring things down to the ground if you please, with some good old horse sense. Again I am sorry to appear ungraceful but credibility and "Truth" is what I am after here. BY the way, did "rare" graduate to "fantastic: and bizarre"? I guess I missed it.... :-) And again, my apology. I have no intention to offend. God bless John |
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7 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Matt 12:40 | Jesusman | 192335 | ||
Ok .. in what way was I unclear in that I was trying to add a little extra-biblical support to what was taking place in the Bible? Did I ever say I was trying to replace the Gospel? No! Is it some huge crime or sin against the Ten Commandments to say "hey .. this not only happened here, but something very similar happened in recent history." Or to say "Hey .. this really did happen cause proof was found that it did happen"? Is the concept of apologetics totally foreign here?? |
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8 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Matt 12:40 | Hank | 192343 | ||
Hi, Jesusman - I certainly won't chide you for your offering of a bit of extra-biblical evidence. Extra-biblical evidence of the historical events recorded in Scripture abounds, and the more sophisticated all branches of true science grow -- this does not include wild theories, such as evolution, which has neither scientific nor biblical support -- the more they tend to corrobrate what was written centuries ago in God's word. One of my favorite web sites is Institute for Creation Research (icr.org). These Christian scholars and scientists in El Cajon, California have done much research into creationism and evolution, Noah's devastating flood, Jonah's big fish and many other events recorded in Scripture. Ours is not a blind faith based on myths and fairy tales, but on the God of creation and the Man, Christ Jesus, a real person in history, who walked and talked along the shores of Lake Galilee and the streets of Jerusalem. In his book, "The New Evidence That Demands a Verdict," Josh McDowell has no qualms at all about documenting strong archeological evidence in support of the reliability of both the Old and New Testaments. I see nothing at all wrong with the work and research of the Christian men and women at icr.org nor with such fine works as Josh McDowell has produced. Thus, my friend, I have no reason at all to find anything wrong with your illustration of a modern-day Jonah who spent a short vacation within a fish. As for me, I'd sooner observe a fish from without than from within, but there's no accounting for taste, I suppose. :-) ...... Someone may say, "But I don't need any evidence beyond what God has written in His Word." Fine. Neither do I. But in our time hosts of churches are turning away from sola scriptura to a crass liberalism that seeks to replace the authority of Scripture with the deceptive lies of humanism. Perhaps those who hold Scripture in such low regard would profit from the incontrovertible evidence of extra-biblical sources. I don't know that they would. It takes more than hard evidence to convince and convict anyone whose heart is as hard as stone. See Ezek. 36:26. --Hank | ||||||