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1 | OT Laws - still apply today? | Lev 20:9 | reilly1041 | 85658 | ||
I have read very little of the OT, I am relatively new to Bible reading, so my confusion will shine through! My question is -- what is the application, if any, of the OT laws listed in Leviticus, such as 20:9, to we Christians today. (I just chose this one as an example, could have chosen others.) Jesus came to "fulfill the OT Law" - does that mean that these rules do not apply to us? But the Ten Commandments do? Is it because we are Gentiles, and the Law was not given to Gentiles? If that is the answer, does the Law still apply to Messianic Jews (who I assume are Jews who believe in Christ's divinity, incarnation, resurrection)? I know that Paul said that no man can completely follow the Law, are we supposed to still be trying? Thanks for your help!! reilly |
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2 | OT Laws - still apply today? | Lev 20:9 | Radioman2 | 85661 | ||
"...the law cannot be altogether invalid since the New Testament affirms its abiding applicability." The Law under the New Covenant. [Note: The following is an excerpt from the article "The Law". It is recommended that you go to the website given here and read the entire article.)] 'The New Testament's statements about Old Testament law are difficult to harmonize. On the one hand, some New Testament statements indicate that under the new covenant the whole law is in some sense abrogated (Rom 6:14, "you are not under law" Rom 10:4, "Christ is the end of the law" ).' ["For sin will not have authority over you; because you are not under legalism but under grace." Romans 6:14 (Complete Jewish Bible, David H. Stern, Jewish New Testament Publications, Inc., 1998) "For the goal at which the Torah (Law) aims is the Messiah, who offers righteousness to everyone who trusts." Romans 10:4 (CJB)] (...) 'On the other hand, the law cannot be altogether invalid since the New Testament affirms its abiding applicability. "All Scripture is … useful" (2 Tim 3:16-17), including Old Testament laws. Jesus came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it (Matt 5:17-20). The law is the embodiment of truth that instructs (Rom 2:18-19). It is "holy" and "spiritual, " making sin known to us by defining it; therefore, Paul delights in it (Rom 7:7-14,22). The law is good if used properly (1 Tim 1:8), and is not opposed to the promises of God (Gal 3:21). Faith does not make the law void, but the Christian establishes the law (Rom 3:31), fulfilling its requirements by walking according to the Spirit (Rom 8:4) through love (Rom 13:10). When Paul states that women are to be in submission "as the Law says" (1 Cor 14:34) or quotes parts of the Decalogue (Rom 13:9), and when James quotes the law of love (2:8 from Lev 19:18) or condemns partiality, adultery, murder, and slander as contrary to the law (2:9, 11; 4:11), and when Peter quotes Leviticus, "Be holy, because I am holy" (1 Peter 1:16; from Lev 19:2), the implication is that the law, or at least part of it, remains authoritative. (...) 'The New Testament writers also apply the principles in the law. From Deuteronomy 25:4 ("Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out grain"), Paul derives a principle that workers ought to be rewarded for their labors and applies that principle in the case of Christian workers (1 Cor 9:9-14). In 1 Timothy 5:18, Paul again quotes Deuteronomy 25:4, this time in parallel with a saying of Jesus (Matt 10:10) as if both are equally authoritative. Likewise, the principle of establishing truth by two or three witnesses (Deut 19:15), originally limited to courts, is applied more broadly to a church conference (2 Cor 13:1). The principle that believers are not to be unequally yoked together with unbelievers is derived from a law concerning the yoking animals (2 Cor 6:14; cf. Deut 22:10). 'In 1 Corinthians 5:1-5, 13, Paul affirms on the basis of Leviticus 18:29 that incest, a capital offense in the Old Testament, is immoral and deserves punishment. A person practicing incest in the church must be excommunicated to maintain the church's practical holiness. Paul maintains the law's moral principle, yet in view of the changed redemptive setting, makes no attempt to apply the law's original sanction.' ------------- Bibliography. G. Bahnsen, Theonomy in Christian Ethics; W. S. Barker and W. R. Godfrey, eds., Theonomy: A Reformed Critique; H. J. Boecker, Law and the Administration of Justice in the Old Testament and the Ancient Near East; U. Cassuto, A Commentary on the Book of Exodus; D. A. Dorsey, JETS 34/3 (Sept. 1991): 321-34; H.-H. Esser, NIDNTT2:438-51; M. Greenberg, Yehezkel Kaufmann Jubilee Volume, pp. 3-28; idem, Studies in Bible: 1986, pp. 3-28; idem, Religion and Law, pp. 101-12, 120-25; H. W. House and T. Ice, Dominion Theology: A Blessing or a Curse?; W. C. Kaiser, Jr., Toward Old Testament Ethics; idem, JETS33/3 (Sept. 1990): 289-302; G. E. Mendenhall, Religion and Law, pp. 85-100; Dale Patrick, Old Testament Law; V. Poythress, The Shadow of Christ in the Law of Moses; R. J. Rushdooney, The Institutes of Biblical Law; R. Sonsino, Judaism33 (1984): 202-9; J. Sprinkle, A Literary Approach to Biblical Law: Exodus 20:22-23:19. Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology. Edited by Walter A. Elwell, 1996 by Walter A. Elwell. Published by Baker Books. (http://bible.crosswalk.com/Dictionaries/BakersEvangelicalDictionary/) |
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3 | OT Laws - still apply today? | Lev 20:9 | Mathew | 85698 | ||
Radioman, I agree with this way of thinking. I beleive that we are pardoned from the penalty of the law which is death. But I still beleive that Gods laws that were written on stone are written on our hearts, and are still the standard today. Grace saves us, but it doesnt change us. Only the law can point out sin. When we see our sin, then we can change. The bible says if you love me keep my commandments. Every day I try to keep these commandments, and every day I still need Gods mercy to give me grace because Im sure I've failed somewhere. I dont live in condemnation to these laws because I no that were my sin abounds, grace does much more abound. I can never be satisfied or comfortable with how Im living because I know that only God was saved by the law. Only he could keep it. So I strive to do the same, even in my failures. Were I am weak, he was strong. MaTT |
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4 | OT Laws - still apply today? | Lev 20:9 | Hank | 85699 | ||
The "gospel" according to (forum user) Mathew: "Grace saves us but it doesn't change us." ...... The Gospel according to Jesus: "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3). --Hank | ||||||
5 | OT Laws - still apply today? | Lev 20:9 | Emmaus | 85708 | ||
Hank, "Grace saves us but it doesn't change us" sound to me a lot like the concept of extrinsic justification, which may be what is confusing Matt. On the other hand you seem to be championing intrinsic justification by grace. Should I expect you to pope anytime soon? ;-) Emmuas |
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6 | OT Laws - still apply today? | Lev 20:9 | Hank | 85709 | ||
No immediate plans, Emmaus, to pope. At my age I fear I'm too pooped to pope. :-) | ||||||