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1 | 1. Is God sovereign? 2.) Free Will? | Job 1:8 | embersky | 147387 | ||
We all know the book of Job is a hard one to fathom. There are many verses in Bible that affirm the sovereinty of the Lord. And Lord mentions that He is sovereign, He does not have any counsellor. OK. My question is why would God create Satan in the first place. And in the book of Job why He would listen to Satan's masochistic plans and nod to them too!?? Even when God reveals His Will and nature to Job... it does not compensate him justly as his relatives and family members are already dead and are never brought back to life? Q1- What about the sovereingty of God in the face of Satan's doings in God's presence? Q2. If God is all knowing and determines everything.. isnt our free will a myth?? God decides whether we believe in Him or not? This is predestination. Belief in God is not a choice but fate already decided by Him? I find it heart breaking. Please answer these two questions in the light of my comment and dont try to paint all positive and shining picture. Be realistic. Thanks. |
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2 | 1. Is God sovereign? 2.) Free Will? | Job 1:8 | G. Preston | 233071 | ||
If G-d pre-determined our spiritual destiny then why did He have Christ to give His life on the cross...for what reason? G-d created Satan to give you and I a choice between.... good and evil...simple as that. We must make a discerning judgement of the two. You will note that G-d controlled application and extent of Satans' power with Job. G-d does not have to justify/compensate in any way for what He allows to happen. Mysterious as it may seem at times to you and I, His plan is righteous. |
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3 | 1. Is God sovereign? 2.) Free Will? | Job 1:8 | DocTrinsograce | 233073 | ||
Dear G, You wrote, "G-d created Satan to give you and I a choice between.... good and evil...simple as that. We must make a discerning judgement of the two." Where is this written? In Him, Doc |
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4 | 1. Is God sovereign? 2.) Free Will? | Job 1:8 | G. Preston | 233074 | ||
Doc, You will note that I did not quote the Bible. However, do you differ from that conclusion...if so please share with us....how? Surely, you don't disagree with the conclusion that G-d created everything. |
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5 | 1. Is God sovereign? 2.) Free Will? | Job 1:8 | DocTrinsograce | 233076 | ||
Dear G, I did, indeed, notice. I concur that God created all things, and that Satan – a creature – is therefore a creation of God. However, you go beyond that simple syllogism by attempting to give an explanation as to why God created Satan; i.e., “to give you and I a choice between...” (sic). (In theology this line of inquiry is called theodicy: attempting to deal with the problem of evil in the light of a good and holy God.) I was not challenging your assertion so much as trying to determine if you had a Scripture on which we might actually deduce God's intentions in creating Satan. To know the mind of God relative to His motivations and eternal purposes, necessitates that He reveals it. Furthermore, we would not want to hold to a doctrine so sweeping unless we had Scripture on which to base it (see post #205911). Therefore, my question: Where is that written? Now as to the other thing about choice, here are my thoughts (for what they are worth): Every man does have a choice (the ability to select varying courses of action based on what he determines will bring him the greatest good). However, that choice does not seem so much to do with choosing to enslave themselves to Satan versus enslaving themselves to God. Rather, it seems to me that it is more fundamental than that: shall men choose to enslave themselves to themselves versus enslaving themselves to God (Romans 6:19). The root of evil in this world is not so much Satan or the world system, the root of evil is within us. Everyone, everywhere, and in every time has tried to point to something external to blame. We can feel better about ourselves if we can point to something and blame it on all our ills; e.g., if it weren't for those rascally Romans...; if it weren't for those argumentative Sadducees...; if it weren't for our poverty...; if it weren't for our illnesses...; if it weren't for those liberals...; etc. etc. Nonetheless, our Lord places His finger right on the real source of evil: “For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries, deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride and foolishness. All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man.” (Mark 7:21-23) Thus, there is at least one other thing upon which a choice would be based – and that other thing is much more immediate an issue relative to our choices than is Satan. In Him, Doc |
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6 | 1. Is God sovereign? 2.) Free Will? | Job 1:8 | G. Preston | 233103 | ||
Doc, I know of no scripture per se. There are many/many general references to G-d's creations. It is not a sweeping doctrine. Such would be used to address a response where such a position replaces long held scholarly interpretation. I know of no such interpretation/position...do you? G-d hardly needs to explain His actions to us. Thus, one of the reasons for..."Faith"! |
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