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1 | Why effects of forgiven sins? | Hebrews | brazos | 174499 | ||
When we accept God's gift of salvation through faith in the death, burial and ressurection of Jesus Christ, God's son, our sins are forgiven. Our sins are blotted out. Our sins are cast as far as the east is from the west. Though our sins were scarlet, we are made white as snow. All our sins, past, present and future are covered by the shed blood of Jesus Christ. This is all true, yes? Then the question I have is why are there still effects of our sins? Such as God still disciplines us. We quench the power of the Holy Spirit. Our sins still have repercussions. Anyone have any thoughts on this? | ||||||
2 | Why effects of forgiven sins? | Hebrews | FytRobert | 174527 | ||
Hi Lionheart, I quote from your answear. "The sin is forgiven. That does't necessarily mean we escape the consequences of what we have done in the past" The sin is forgiven, by itself is conclusive. Thus,to forgive- to pardon-to permit an offence to pass without punishment.Therefore, the conseq- uences are subject to clarification. Your comments, please. With love in Christ. FytRobert |
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3 | Why effects of forgiven sins? | Hebrews | Wild Olive Shoot | 174532 | ||
Dear FytRobert, You can look to 2 Samuel Chapter 12 for an example of what lionheart is referring to, specifically 2 Samuel 12:7 - 25. Although David was still punished for what he had done and had to suffer the consequences of his evil acts, we know that ultimately, he was forgiven of these acts. 2Samuel 12:13, 14: 13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die. 14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. WOS |
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4 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | Hebrews | FytRobert | 174578 | ||
Hi wos, Yes, David suffered the consequences of his evil acts, but his suffering was effected before he realised his wrong doings and asked for forgiveness. Your comments, please. In connection with the above, would you like to advise whether there is a difference between the following two systems with regard to punishment. A 1 Commit sin 2 suffer consequences 3Ask for forgiveness. B 1 Commit sin 2Ask for forgiveness 3Suffer consequence? Thanks. FytRobert |
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5 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | Hebrews | Wild Olive Shoot | 174580 | ||
Dear FytRobert, You state: “but his suffering was effected before he realised his wrong doings and asked for forgiveness.” Do you believe that David thought adultery and murder were acceptable? I’m quite sure he knew it was wrong as he tried to hide and cover what he had done from the eyes of men. Look at Psalm 51, written after or during the events that took place in 2Samuel 12. The chronology (lacking of a more identifying term) of these events as put forth by God in His Word is that David sinned (2Sa 11:4, 2Sa 11:15), was convicted and acknowledged and confessed his sin (2Sa 12:7, 2Sa 12:13), was forgiven (2Sa 12:13) but still suffered the consequences immediately and for years to come (2Sa 12:10, 2Sa 12:11, 2Sa 12:14). That’s how it is recorded as I read. Note that 2Sa 12:10 and 2Sa 12:11 were announced prior to David’s confession and 2Sa 12:14 was after. Nathan announced the death of the child after David’s confession. Concerning your two “systems” as stated, the need to ask for forgiveness is not appropriate. Forgiveness is granted through Christ. If I would insert confession in place of forgiveness, I see both “systems” as being applicable. My friend, just look around you and it won’t be but a minute before you see the consequences of sin in both the saved an unsaved. For the saved however, these consequences are temporal. For the lost, I would surmise that they could be both temporal and spiritual. Not to go too far off track, we still suffer the consequences of Adam’s sin do we not? Just my thoughts. WOS |
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