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1 | Col. 2:16 and Sabbath Keeping | Acts | Reformer Joe | 19025 | ||
Nolan: It seems to me that Barnes' view contradicts Tim's rather than supports it, if I am understanding Tim to say that the Fourth Commandment is no longer applicable to believers. --Joe! |
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2 | Col. 2:16 and Sabbath Keeping | Acts | Makarios | 19059 | ||
Maybe if you could tell me what exactly is 'contradicting', Joe... "Or in respect of a holy day—Margin, part. The meaning is, “in the part, or the particular of a holy day; that is, in respect to it” The word rendered “holy-day”— —means properly a “feast” or “festival;” and the allusion here is to the festivals of the Jews. The sense is, that no one had a right to impose their observance on Christians, or to condemn them if they did not keep them. They had been delivered from that obligation by the death of Christ; Col. 2:14." [I would explain the above paragraph as an "introduction" or explanation of what will come next. The main idea here is that no one has the right to impose the observance of holy days (including the Sabbath) on Christians, since Christians have been delivered from that obligation.] (...) "Or of the new moon—On the appearance of the new moon, among the Hebrews, in addition to the daily sacrifices, two bullocks, a ram, and seven sheep, with a meat offering, were required to be presented to God; Num. 10:10; 28:11-14. The new moon in the beginning of the month Tisri (October) was the beginning of their civil year, and was commanded to be observed as a festival; Lev. 23:24, 25. [Tell me if I'm wrong, but I believe that no explanation here is needed for this paragraph.] Or of the Sabbath days—Greek, “of the Sabbaths.” The word Sabbath in the Old Testament is applied not only to the seventh day, but to all the days of holy rest that were observed by the Hebrews, and particularly to the beginning and close of their great festivals. There is, doubtless, reference to those days in this place, since the word is used in the plural number, and the apostle does not refer particularly to the Sabbath properly so called. There is no evidence from this passage that he would teach that there was no obligation to observe any holy time, for there is not the slightest reason to believe that he meant to teach that one of the ten commandments had ceased to be binding on mankind. If he had used the word in the singular number—“THE Sabbath,” it would then, of course, have been clear that he meant to teach that that commandment had ceased to be binding, and that a Sabbath was no longer to be observed. But the use of the term in the plural number, and the connection, show that he had his eye on the great number of days which were observed by the Hebrews as festivals, as a part of their ceremonial and typical law, and not to the moral law, or the Ten Commandments. No part of the moral law—no one of the ten commandments could be spoken of as “a shadow of good things to come.” These commandments are, from the nature of moral law, of perpetual and universal obligation." [What this paragraph is saying is that Paul was speaking in the 'plural' sense, therefore including all of the holy days and saying that "no one is to act as your judge" concerning holy days or a Sabbath day. Therefore, Paul is not explicitly saying that we should disregard this commandment, he is saying "let no one judge you" in accordance with a Sabbath or any holy day, which are mere shadows of the things to come. He is not saying here that the law must be disregarded, he is saying that Christians are no longer obligated to uphold these feasts, holy days, and the Sabbath as commanded in the Old Testament since we are under a new covenant now.] (Taken from Barnes' Notes on the NT) |
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3 | Col. 2:16 and Sabbath Keeping | Acts | Morant61 | 19074 | ||
Greetings Nolan! I think that Joe is refering to the last paragraph. It says, "There is, doubtless, reference to those days in this place, since the word is used in the plural number, and the apostle does not refer particularly to the Sabbath properly so called. There is no evidence from this passage that he would teach that there was no obligation to observe any holy time, for there is not the slightest reason to believe that he meant to teach that one of the ten commandments had ceased to be binding on mankind. If he had used the word in the singular number—“THE Sabbath,” it would then, of course, have been clear that he meant to teach that that commandment had ceased to be binding, and that a Sabbath was no longer to be observed. But the use of the term in the plural number, and the connection, show that he had his eye on the great number of days which were observed by the Hebrews as festivals, as a part of their ceremonial and typical law, and not to the moral law, or the Ten Commandments. No part of the moral law—no one of the ten commandments could be spoken of as “a shadow of good things to come.” These commandments are, from the nature of moral law, of perpetual and universal obligation." I got the same impression myself when I first read it, but in light of your other posts on this issue, I just let it slide. However, Barnes does seem to be saying: 1) That the plural number indicates that the Sabbath is not the subject of discussion. 2) That one of the 10 commandments could not be invalid now, since it is a moral law, not a cermonial law. 3) That one of the 10 commandments could not be described as a "shadow of things to come." 4) That the command to keep the Sabbath is a universal and perpetual obligation. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Col. 2:16 and Sabbath Keeping | Acts | Makarios | 19101 | ||
Dear Tim and Joe, I went ahead and read through this about six times and I still come up with the same interpretation. Perhaps it is I who am misunderstanding what Barnes' Notes were actually saying on this topic. I apologize for posting it. The posting has accomplished the exact opposite of what I intended it for. Well, if you read the *Repost* where I stated six or seven reasons that Christians no longer keep the Sabbath and worship on Sunday, then you will see the view that I take. I apologize, Joe and Tim, for the confusion. - Nolan |
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5 | Col. 2:16 and Sabbath Keeping | Acts | Morant61 | 19105 | ||
Greetings Nolan! No problem! Like I said, I read your other post, so I was clear about what you meant! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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