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1 | Who decided that the extraordinary gifts | Acts | DocTrinsograce | 197967 | ||
Hi, Brad... I think you will find that Brother BradK's assessment does, indeed, reflect both doctrine and practice for Biblical Christian orthodoxy. I wish I could express myself as well as he! We draw our normative practices and our doctrines from didactic passages. The record of the miracle with Lazarus did, does, and always will affirm that Jesus is Messiah (John 11:42-43), bringing glory to God in general, and to the Son of God in particular (John 11:4). Nowhere in the narratives recounting the miraculous restoration of life are we told that these incidents are to be normative behaviors. In reference to your suggestion regarding John 11:45: We do not implement or eschew practices based on their results. The truth manifests itself in practical ways, but pragmatism is not a Christian philosophy. Even if this were a sound exegesis of that passage, we can cite other passages where Christ performed miracles only to have people stop following Him (John 6:62-66). After all, belief is never a matter of what people see (Luke 16:31). You also cited 2 Corinthians 4:4, but that whole passage is about God bringing the truth directly to the hearts of those to be saved (v6), not about miraculous manifestations in the church. Finally, I would remind you of Peter. He actually experienced directly the voice of God (Luke 9:35). When he discussed this miraculous experience in 2 Peter 1:18-19, he does not tell us to seek out such supernatural experiences. Instead, he places the value of such an experience as being far less sure than that of the Word of Scripture itself! Therefore, as we read the miracles of Christ and the apostles in the primitive church, we ought to be moved far more than by any sensationalism or theatrics we may experience directly. God is gracious to grant us experiences, but they are nothing as compared to the living Word! In Him, Doc |
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2 | Who decided that the extraordinary gifts | Acts | BMyers | 198065 | ||
What is my suggestion on John 11:45? I believe I was answering BradK's question about if anyone had been converted to following Christ because of a person being raised from the dead. I understand what a 'normative practice' is, but my question was how many times does something have to appear in the Bible before you consider this a normative practice? (I wasn't trying to imply that raising from the dead was normative practice, my question was just that, how many times does anything have to be in the Bible before you consider it a normative practice?) I'm not sure where you got the impression that I was saying that the miracle is more important than the Creator. If I remember the start of this whole discussion, does the Holy Spirit still operate or move? My answer to this is yes. It is demonstrated in the gifts that we find listed in the Bible, which are still active today. 1CO 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware. 1CO 12:2 You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute idols, however you were led. 1CO 12:3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus is accursed”; and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. 1CO 12:4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. 1CO 12:5 And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. 1CO 12:6 There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons. 1CO 12:7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 1CO 12:8 For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; 1CO 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 1CO 12:10 and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues. 1CO 12:11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills. 1CO 12:12 For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so also is Christ. |
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3 | Who decided that the extraordinary gifts | Acts | DocTrinsograce | 198092 | ||
Hi, Brad... A normative practice for the church would be one that arises from didactic passages which actually speak to church practices. One does not derive practice or doctrine from narrative. The genre of a passage always influences sound exegesis. (The Chicago Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics (Article XIII) says it so well: "The awareness of what kind of literature one is interpreting is essential to a correct understanding of the text. A correct genre judgment should be made to ensure correct understanding. A parable, for example, should not be treated like a chronicle, nor should poetry be interpreted as though it were a straightforward narrative. Each passage has its own genre, and the interpreter should be cognizant of the specific kind of literature it is as he attempts to interpret it. Without genre recognition an interpreter can be misled in his understanding of the passage.") Consequently, although water is parted four times in the Scriptures, we are not all bound to part water! However, the single instance of didactic instruction of the orderly and instructive nature of assembly in 1 Corinthians 14, requires our obedience. If you look for the evidence of the Holy Spirit apart from the fruit of holiness as manifested in regenerated lives (cf John 3:8; Mark 4:26-29; 1 John 3:8-9), then you may mistake tares for wheat and goats for sheep. Thank you for your willingness to rightly divide the Word, and to allow it to be our sole authoritative standard. In Him, Doc |
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