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1 | Why believe in the physical Ressurection | Matthew | schimc | 109225 | ||
Why Believe? This question is about the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ. I've heard a bunch of apologetics material before and have found some of it useful. I realize it will boil down to a matter of faith, which I have by the way, but when dealing with others it becomes unsettling. For instance, if you look at the biblical accounts of the resurrection they do not even agree on some pretty basic stuff. Was Mary Magdalene alone when she visited the tomb, etc etc. This is some pretty serious material, the Bible cannot be the word of God if it is full of discrepancies. The Human element of the author had to come into play. Any help would not only be greatly appreciated, but I believe it will help evangelize the lost. I can't argue certain points when I know the bible does not agree with itself in some pretty critical places. Namely, the resurrection account of the four authors of the Bible. in Christ Schimc |
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2 | Why believe in the physical Ressurection | Matthew | Morant61 | 109229 | ||
Greetings Schimc! It has been my experience that most of the so-called difficulties in the Gospel accounts are really not difficulties at all, but assumptions. For instance, you mentioned Mary coming 'alone' to the tomb. None of the Gospel accounts actually says that Mary came 'alone'. Matthew, Mark, and Luke all mention several others coming along with Mary. Now, John only mentions Mary. Here is my point. John never says that she came alone. But, he only mentions her. Does this contradict the other three Gospel accounts? No! It would only contradict them if John said that she came 'alone', which he does not say. No historical account can list every possible detail. Authors must be selective in what level of detail they present and how. For instance, if I were to say that I went to pick up my daugher from kindergarten this morning and then we came home, this would be an accurate statement. However, it is not a complete listing of everything single thing I did this morning. For instance, I went to the mall before I came home. So, the Gospel accounts do agree. However, they are not verbatim copies of one another. After all, what would be the point in having four accounts which all say exactly the same thing! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Inspired by God? | Matthew | schimc | 109363 | ||
Before you jump to conclusions, please do not think that I am someone in here trying to make trouble. I have serious questions regarding some of the text in the New Testament. I want and do believe in the bodily resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ! But (I believe) there may be problems with the text that will cause problems when trying to evangelize the lost, unless we (we/I) am able to resolve some issues with the resurrection accounts. First: mommapbs and others wrote me the following. 2 Tim 3:16 - All Scripture is inspired by God - note the word ALL, not some. I do not see at all where this would apply to the New Testament, even though I want (and do myself) believe the new Testament is inspired by God, this verse must be applied to the "Old Testament". The New Testament was not even something the author would consider as Scripture, yet. Please re-read the Resurrection account of these four crucial witness accounts, or second hand witnesses or third and fourth hand witnesses as in case of say Luke or Mark. Matthew 28 Mark 16 Luke 24 John 20 Read the accounts and answer these questions Was Mary alone when she went to the tomb on the first trip? Were there soldiers there when she went on the first trip? Who were the people that were with her on the first trip? Are these four men all in agreement on this? How many angels did she see on this first trip? Did she see any angels at all on this first trip? Are these four men all in agreement on this? Did Mary Magdalene see the risen Christ on her first trip to and from the tomb? Are these four men all in agreement on this? In what area of Palestine did Jesus first appear to the eleven? Are these four men all in agreement on this? What about this curious statement in Luke 24:34? You have the two men from the Emmaus experience who are fuzzy witnesses at best of what they think they saw or didn't see or wasn't allowed to see by supernatural means, and now they are telling the eleven that Jesus has appeared to Simon! Can't you see Simon's look of astonishment as he says "He did? That's news to me? Or, the other 10 looking at Simon and saying "why did you keep that VERY important information from us? Why did we have to hear from these two guys with the bad eyes that you have already seen the risen Christ? And Peter is just standing there with a sheepish grin "I was going to tell you, but I wanted it to be a surprise" It's an odd statement. It doesn't belong in the story. It doesn't belong in any of the stories. There are people who will say that Luke probably never wrote that. They will say it was probably added, very clumsily of course, and more than likely to prove that Peter, the first Pope, was also the first person to see the risen Christ. Isn't that strange? Luke never mentions that the risen Christ was witnessed by Mary Magdalene. Somebody has to come in and marry all of these texts together and by doing so they are going to have to make some major jumps to declare that they are all Divinely inspired and the Word of God. I have an appointment with my minister tomorrow to discuss some of these same issues. I'm more concerned with knowing what I am talking about when evangelizing the lost at this point, than with resolving these issues for myself, but I would like to resolve them as much as possible, in any event. In Christ Schimc |
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4 | Inspired by God? | Matthew | Morant61 | 109367 | ||
Greetings Schimc! Let's deal with these a few at a time my friend! ;-) First of all, what about what I posted to you about Mary being alone? Matthew and Mark both mention several women being with Mary. Luke doesn't even mention Mary, but simply uses the pronoun 'they'. While John, only mention Mary. Are these contradictory or are they simply varying levels of specificty (sp?)? Nothing in these four accounts is in contradiction concerning Mary being alone, since none of them actually says 'Mary went alone'. :-) Let's address this point first, then we can go back and address others if you like. Secondly, is the New Testament considered Scripture? Apparently, Peter considered Paul's writings to be Scripture. He says of Paul's writings: "Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction." - 2 Peter 3:15-16. Therefore, there is no reason not to apply 2 Tim. 3:16 to the New Testament as well as the Old Testament. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Problems with the Resurrection Accounts? | Matthew | schimc | 109406 | ||
Thank you Tim, and I can agree with you on both of these accounts, better than that, I believe it is something that can be used in defense of the arguments, but let's go on from there. I'm hoping to get beat on these other points as well. Getting beat is probably the wrong choice of words, but never the less, I hope there is something in defense of the other arguments. I have found a few other problems on my own that I did not even write about, but these other issues are still out there. Thank you very much for your response. p.s. I'm sorry I left the Mary Magdelene portion as part of my question. I do feel like you had already answered it. in Chirst Schimc |
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6 | Problems with the Resurrection Accounts? | Matthew | Morant61 | 109408 | ||
Greetings Schimc! No problem my friend! :-) I would highly recommend that you buy a good synopsis of the four Gospels. The United Bible Societies puts out a hardback version which is very affordable, around 10 dollars. It is a helpful tool. The best advice that I can continue to give in dealing with 'critics' is not to let them falsly characterize things as contradictions. A contradiction is a very specific problem: A and not A at the same time and in the say way. A contradiction is not: A and A and B. This is a favorite ploy of critics. Just like with the Mary account in John, critics will often use the following reasoning: John only mentions Mary, The other writers mention Mary and others, so John is wrong. However, John is only wrong if he specifically states that Mary was the 'only one' there at the time. Failure to list every possible person is not an error unless one has claimed to list every possible person and did not. :-) These are the kinds of things that critics will harp on. Good luck with your studies my friend. p.s. - One more word of advice! Ultimately, you will not argue anyone into the Kingdom of God. Your best course of action is to pray for them and to share the reality of your faith with them. Then, the Holy Spirit will do what our arguments could never do. In the final analysis, they are critics, not because of errors in the Bible, but because they do not want to submit to God. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | Problems with the Resurrection Accounts? | Matthew | schimc | 109428 | ||
I am in total agreement with everything you have said here. in Christ Schimc |
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