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5101 | Mark why do you say that? | John 10:27 | EdB | 8016 | ||
Radioman again I find myself across the table from you. What you have to say is basically right, it’s the way you say it. If you re read what you just said to Mark don’t you find it a little abrasive? After all he is you brother in Christ. Your points are well taken and I think they deserve to be thought about. I agree with your evaluation of the Christian TV and TBN in particular, but a lot of if gets lost to the emotions your tone invokes. The wise in heart will be called understanding, And sweetness of speech increases persuasiveness. Proverbs 16:21 Be blessed and be a blessing |
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5102 | Mark please more info and no puss :-) | John 10:27 | EdB | 8015 | ||
Mark I think I know where your coming from and your right. Unfortunately we are thrusted into a world that is ever expanding. I too wish every Christian would stop listening to most radio, all TV and most christian books and get back to the Bible and the Holy Spirit. But as recorded in Daniel "...the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase." Daniel 12:4 | ||||||
5103 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | EdB | 7965 | ||
Lionstrong your assuming one side is wrong and one is right. Could it be they are equally wrong and the correct understanding is something else? I think I know just about every verse the Calvinist use and I also know just about every verse Arminians use. If you compare them one for one you come out with a tie unless you are predisposed to read into either something that is not there. Then if you take the verses used to prove predestination and those that show free will or choice, you again come out for all intents and purposes tied. I submit to that proves something is wrong. As you said both can't be right, and we know the Bible does not contradict itself therefore we must be doing something wrong. What could that be? Are we tainting our reading by with prejudiced and presumed ideas? Before you answer think about it. Men of equal intelligence, equal sincerity, equal hunger for the truth have debated this topic for over 500 years. Yet they reach no satisfactory answer. Why? I contend they have been trying to prove their point rather than find the real answer. I can listen to the arguments of the Calvinist and see their point, however if I remove their bias, their slant to scripture then I can also read the scripture to mean something entirely different. I can then listen to the arguments of the Arminians and see their point. And again if I remove their bias and slant I can see an entirely different reading to scripture. Is Mr. Prince so far off? No, I think not. He is not asking for or suggesting a compromise. He is saying there has to be true doctrine that answers each sides questions, which neither Calvinism nor Arminianism presently does. Therefore there has to be another answer. Lionstrong I thought Derek Prince spoke with wisdom you don’t. Your sure what he said was an attempt to weaken or compromise doctrine. I see him saying there has to be an answer that responds or addresses each side of this debate with a non changing, read nothing into it answer. You see him saying let’s agree to disagree and reach a compromise. I think the fact that we both see Derek Prince saying something different says one of us read what he said with a preconceived notion. Maybe that is how we are reading the scriptures also. |
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5104 | Do we play or pray? | Col 2:16 | EdB | 7938 | ||
Talk about puting words into ones mouth. I never once said I agreed with Steve. Nor has Steve said he agreed with me. So your whole intellectual discourse on how Steve agrees with me and I with Steve and how this proves we are both idiots really shows it is nothing more than a figment of your imagination. Again I ask what did I do to deserve your wrath? | ||||||
5105 | Do we play or pray? | Col 2:16 | EdB | 7936 | ||
Radioman forgive me for putting words in your mouth, if that wasn't what you were trying to say what exactly was it? That Steve needs to be around for 90 years until he can say anything. You and I both know what you were inferring so why act so like it never entered your mind? You also know what I was saying that the discussion should not be over what Scofield said or didn't say but rather what the Bible says. You also know your trying to pick a fight so I ask why? Then I ask one last question by what biblical standard do you have for calling me blind? (excuse me you lead to the assumption that I'm blind) |
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5106 | Do we play or pray? | Col 2:16 | EdB | 7925 | ||
Scofield must be right his Bible has been in print for 90 years 9 decades as Radioman puts it. Let me think, Dake has been in print for 4 decades so he must only be half right. What does that do for the Mormons? The Book of Mormon has been in print since 1830. Why that is almost twice as long, are they twice as right? While we are at it lets see the Koran 560 A.D. boy that sure must make them right. Let’s get another standard for correctness. | ||||||
5107 | You answer one question with 3 more? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 7909 | ||
Radioman your absolutely right it was a cheap shot and one I regret ever making. I look to the Blood of the Lamb for my forgiveness. In my defense you will see the discussion had turned into a Scofield said this, Scofield said that, type discussion. I regrettably set out to prove Scofield was just a man and therefore what he said was nothing more than man’s opinion. To continue the thread the direction it was headed seemed counter productive and I was attempting to get JVH0212 and Lionstrong back to a biblical track. As you pointed out I did it completely wrong and now with my excellent 20 20 hindsight I see it was none of my business in the first place. I should have kept my thoughts to myself. Therefore to JVH0212, Lionstrong and Dr. Scofield I apologize. Radioman I hope you think none the worst of me. I pray my life will attest to more than this lack of judgment on my part. Can we remove the sword from my heart? :-) |
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5108 | Is the Word-Faith movement biblical ? | John 10:27 | EdB | 7901 | ||
Tim my heart goes out to you and your family. I have seen this same heart breaking thing happen many times. I know a Pastor that broke his leg and the church asked him to leave because it was obvious he didn't have enough faith or there was sin in his life. What a destructive teaching, no wonder people in the world want no part of Christianity. |
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5109 | Is the Word-Faith movement biblical ? | John 10:27 | EdB | 7900 | ||
Glory777 you have made some excellent points, let me address them not that anything you said is wrong, but let’s see how Word of Faith would twist them. First you said God spoke all of creation into existence. That is true and is exciting and wondrous, but it doesn’t apply to us, we don’t have God’s power. This however is a ploy used by the Word of Faith, in consistently bringing that up they suggest or imply that given enough faith we too could create a universe. I think the verse speak blessing and not curses can very closely be tied in with the other verse that says do unto others as you would have them do unto you. As I said before we as Christians should be the most positive people alive, because we know we have a savior! Your absolutely right faith is important and without faith we can not please God. In fact faith is what it all comes down to, but remember when we talk about Word of Faith we have a something before faith and that is “Word”. Here lies the problem they claim everything happens by the words that are spoken, either positively or negatively. They completely leave God out of the equation. And that is not really true they really make God into a parking lot valet. They do that by saying find a promise in the Bible and claim it and God has to perform it. That is simply not true. God doesn’t have to do a thing! God does make promises and God keeps every promise He makes. However some promises are conditional in that a condition or a requirement must be met by us to secure that promise. In other promises he made are specific in that they were made to one person and one person only. Now before anyone comes back and says God is not a respecter of persons therefore we can claim all the promises made to anyone. Show me how your going to claim the promise made to Abraham that out of him would come a great nation and a savior. There are also general promises and these for the most part can stand as such and we can expect to see them fulfilled in our lives. Lets’ take an example of all of this. One of Word of Faith’s favorite examples of the power of word in someone life is the story of Job. They say Job is a classic example of how someone brings disaster into their lives with the wrong confessions. They teach Job brought all his problems on himself. They use the verse Job 3:25 "For what I fear comes upon me, And what I dread befalls me.” They teach that because Job was living in this fear that Satan was able to bring all of Job’s troubles onto him. That is total nonsense. Look at what God says about Job. Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job; and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God and turning away from evil. Job 1:8 The LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered My servant Job? For there is no one like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, fearing God and turning away from evil." Job 2:3 The LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered My servant Job? For there is no one like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man fearing God and turning away from evil. And he still holds fast his integrity, although you incited Me against him to ruin him without cause." Job 2:9-10 Then his wife said to him, "Do you still hold fast your integrity? Curse God and die!" 10But he said to her, "You speak as one of the foolish women speaks. Shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity?" In all this Job did not sin with his lips. Notice the last sentence in verse 2:10. In all of this Job did not sin with his lips. Other words Job did not speak any of the disaster into his life. That one verse showed me without a doubt that Word of Faith’s teaching did not hold up to scrutiny and that it is a false doctrine. For more information read “Kingdom of the Cults” by Walter Martin, pub. Bethany House, the latest edition edited by Hank Hanegraaff has a whole chapter on Word of Faith and their false teachings. It is done in a professional and academic way in that he footnotes every example or quote so you can check for yourself if what he is saying is true or not. To me Word of Faith teaching is one of the most destructive false doctrines that was ever devised and some part of it has crept into “nearly” every denomination in one form or another. |
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5110 | Where there is no vision, people perish? | Prov 29:18 | EdB | 7875 | ||
Excellent answer Mark Sutton. A word study of the word “vision” will lead the student to the word “revelation” and eventually to the meaning “God’s Word”, “God’s law” or “God’s restraint”. In other words, “without God’s Word or Law (restraint) the people will perish” I believe Amos 8:11-12 expounds on this idea "Behold, days are coming," declares the Lord GOD, "When I will send a famine on the land, Not a famine for bread or a thirst for water, But rather for hearing the words of the LORD. 12"People will stagger from sea to sea And from the north even to the east; They will go to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, But they will not find it.” |
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5111 | Steve explain worship more? | John 4:24 | EdB | 7817 | ||
Steve your response fascinates me. You need to expand on the names of God. If we look in the Old Testament we see the people call God various names at various times in various stages of worship. If we read the Bible we know God considers names to be important, yet we seldom use the names scriptures give us for God. Steve as far as bowing or laying prostrate before the Lord you are absolutely right, but in most churches outside charismatic any form of outward worship is frowned upon. Most people view it as an attention attracting attempt to get oneself recognized as more spiritual than they. No wonder God calls us stiff necked. Steve you said to worship properly it takes time. Isn’t that a problem in our society we are instant people we don’t have time. We rush to work, rush at our work, rush to get home, rush to get supper, rush to get the kids to bed, rush to this, that, or another thing. Taking time??? Boy that is deep I wonder how God would react if His people started taking time for Him. That last sentence was tongue in cheek for those that want to get mad. :-) Steve I read your other response on the same subject I will request a copy of your document. Thanks for the offer Ed |
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5112 | How did He get into closed rooms? | John 20:19 | EdB | 7814 | ||
Nolan let me add if I have my facts right your a Brethren, I'm more than familiar with them and their teaching as I once attended and was baptized a Brethren. So there is no way I would suggest you were a JW. Your question just kind of made me wonder what you were asking. I probably should not have said what I did, but again it wasn’t aimed at you I was just trying to shut the door before any falsehood got in. | ||||||
5113 | How did He get into closed rooms? | John 20:19 | EdB | 7813 | ||
Nolan I did not label you anything! Nor did I infer you were a JW. I did say I hope you weren't suggesting Jesus was merely a spirit which happens to be a falsehood many including the JW teach. My choice of words were probably wrong and for that I apologize to you. As to your second remark if you will reread what I said you will see I gave you an honest answer. In fact it is the same answer you gave in your third paragraph. I only did it in a lot less words. Nolan I’m sorry for any misunderstanding, I just wanted to respond to your question in such a way that no opportunity was given for someone to come along and teach a falsehood saying Jesus was just a spirit etc, etc, etc. |
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5114 | Is there anyone else who has input? | Acts 5:34 | EdB | 7762 | ||
That's how I interpreted your responses and they weren't directed at me. I won't deny what Steve said could be accepted as a challenge but why do we have to let it become that? He picked a bad word in 'most' and I'm certain he wasn't necessarily aiming at your church. By the way Steve did start a new thread on worship and what he meant. Read what he has to say you may or may not agree. | ||||||
5115 | Is there anyone else who has input? | Acts 5:34 | EdB | 7726 | ||
Great idea let us know where it is | ||||||
5116 | Is there anyone else who has input? | Acts 5:34 | EdB | 7725 | ||
Hank let's not get into defensive mode let's find out what he is saying and go from there. Let us be peace makers |
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5117 | Tell me more about your worship | Acts 5:34 | EdB | 7724 | ||
Let's say he was stupid thinking he could justify what he was doing in any way. | ||||||
5118 | Was Jesus actually in the tomb 3 days? | John 19:31 | EdB | 7723 | ||
Steve you have your Jewish days and nights mixed up, a Jewish calendar day starts at 6PM and run through to the next day at six PM. Example our Thursday which runs from midnight to mid night would encompass part of a Jewish Thursday night 12-6am a Jewish Thursday day 6am-6pm and part of a Jewish Friday night 6pm –midnight. In your example it would be Jewish start of calendar day Thursday 6pm-6am Day 1 Thursday 6am-6pm crucifixion with death occurring at 3PM Night 1 Friday 6pm-6am Day 2 Friday 6am-6pm Night 2 Saturday 6pm-6am Day 3 Saturday 6am-6pm Night 3 Sunday 6pm-6am Day 4 Sunday 6am-6pm Resurrection probably occurring before 6am. Tradition tells us it happened this way Jewish start of calendar day Friday 6pm-6am Day 1 Friday 6am-6pm crucifixion with death occurring at 3pm. Night 1 Saturday 6pm-6am Day 2 Saturday 6am-6pm Night 2 Sunday 6pm – 6am Day 3 Sunday 6am -6pm Resurrection occurring early after 6 am. We seem to be missing a least one night. For Jesus to fulfill the Old Testament Christology found in the Passover he had to died 4 days after his triumphant entry into Jerusalem. His entry was the 10 th of Nissan which it was, the day set aside for the “selection of the lambs”, his death would have to come on or just before the evening of the 14 th day the beginning of Passover. See Exodus 12. If we hold Jesus’ triumphant entry to be Palm Sunday then he had to died 4 days later which would be our Thursday, just before the beginning of the Jewish day Friday at 6PM which also would be a Passover “Sabbath” day. Followed by Saturday the weekly Passover making Sunday the first day the ladies could go to the grave to fulfill they need to further prepare Jesus’ body. Now let all those that tell you they are not influenced by church traditions tell you why this has to be wrong. Also see this same discussion by searching on Matthew 12:40 |
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5119 | What drew him to the group? | Acts 5:34 | EdB | 7676 | ||
Thanks Nolan, this is a common story hurting Christians looking for answers. Most of the time the “Christian” church is too busy shooting the wounded to help. I have seen this scenario happen over and over. I would guess 90 percent of Mormon and JW converts are hurting Christians. I once knew a sweet young girl that made a mistake (had the baby instead of aborting it), gave her life to Christ and turned her life around. However the really “righteous women” of the church drove her out before she could contaminate any of their sons. The same boys that were bedding any girl that would look at them twice. She left in tears. I tried to talk to her and she said something I will never forget, she said I use to attend a Jehovah Witness church and you know something like this would never have happened there. Thankfully she didn’t go back the JW She found a great church, with loving people. And after a few years she met a fine young man, they got married and now the whole family is serving the Lord. |
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5120 | How can Christians listen to this? | Acts 5:34 | EdB | 7675 | ||
Prayon your right on (no pun intended :-) ) Unfortunately this is happening more and more as the mega churches are faced with need for continuing growth. It will continue until people find themselves in crisis then they seek the authentic, they seek men and women that can direct them to God. |
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