Subject: Do demons exist today? |
Bible Note: EdB, Response to post 243796. I shall go even a little further and I will respond with what I THINK you said in post 243788 which has me confused and then tell you what I think I hear in the verses you shared. This way you can best identify where I am going wrong. To ease my copy and paste efforts I'm backing up and making this a reply to post 788. So you said, "To clarify I believe there actions both Christians and non Christian can do that give Satan access into their lives. I am not talk about sinning as such but rather things that open our spirit being to attack." So not sin in general, but specific sins are central to "opening" ourselves to demonic attack. Then you identified these sins as messing with the occult, mediums, tarot card readings, ouija boards, drugs, and alcohol. 1.) So the first thing I'm looking to be explained/substantiated in the verses is that the bible teaches that these specific things, and not sin in general are the avenues through which spirits are allowed to attack us. Moving on, you also said, "what defines a Christian the name or a behavior within them or the fact they have closed all e trances into their being except those that Christ Himself opens." Which ofcourse you defined as participation in the aforementioned specific sins. Then you fleshed this idea out by saying, "I believe to truly be a Christians we must be active in protecting the portals of our mind giving access to only to the things of God." 2.) So the next thing I'm looking for in the verses you supplied, is what is the relationship of obstaining from these to being Christian. Are you saying that obstaining makes you a Christian? That God will see to it that a saved person will therefore not do these things? What? So I come to the verses for answers to these two questions. Here is my take away on the verses. 2 Cor 11:4 You are indulging preachers of a false gospel/Jesus when you shouldn't be. Lev 19:31 Do not consult mediums or necromancers and if you do you will become unclean. Lev 20:6 Messing with these things causes you to be an enemy of God and seperated from God's people. So though these verses mention a couple of the sins you spoke of, nowhere do these verses explain anything about your specific assertions. They dont' seem to me to be saying that these specific sins are the very precise avenues by which we open ourselves to demonic attack. More, they say nothing at all about drugs and alcohol. Nor do they explain to me precisely how these things relate to being a Christian so that I know what you mean when you say obstaining from these is what "defines a Christian." I hope this clarifies my confusion. In Christ, Beja |