Bible Question:
What is truth? Tim, I'm learning my way around this forum. You wrote me but I lost that place. So maybe you will see this response. First of all I thank you for the welcome. It seems to me though that you are not “desiring” to accept Bible truth. I know that is strong language but these issues have been argued since the days of the “apostasy” just after the apostle John’s death. I understand that the application of Pr 8:23 to Jesus was the key in these arguments but not without numerous supports, that Jesus was indeed created thus not the Almighty God. Jesus said that “No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws him.” (John 6:44) Do you sincerely believe that the teaching of eternal damnation in hell as you posted yesterday, draws people to God? In the minds of just and loving people, it is a repelling thought! The Bible, on the other hand, teaches that “God is love” and that cruelty, even to animals, is abhorrent to him. 1 John 4:8; Proverbs 12:10; Jeremiah 7:31; Jonah 4:11. Recall what Jesus said about the Christian way: “Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.” Christendom (those that claim to believe the Bible yet believe in the trinity, immortality of the soul, and eternal torment) are many in comparison to the few true worshipers of the Almighty God Jehovah, as has always been the case in man’s history. Shame on you and others that draw people to worship Jesus as the Almighty instead of whom Jesus said to worship. ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” (John 20:17)(“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).—Mr 3:17; 5:41; 7:11; 15:34. Jesus Christ promises the spirit-begotten Christians that the one who conquers, who endures faithfully to the end, will be made “a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out from it anymore.” (Re 3:12) I could go on and on and on showing that Jesus’ Father is the Almighty God and Jesus is his only begotten son. Also, Jesus said that at John 15:18,19 “If the world hates YOU, YOU know that it has hated me before it hated YOU. 19 If YOU were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, on this account the world hates YOU. I see that Christendom is not hated by the world but is itself part of the world. Jesus and the early Christians were flogged, killed, and hated. Today true Christians are still killed and hated for following the Bible truths. They are imprisoned for not killing fellow Christians in war. They are hated for believing that Jesus is God’s son and not God himself. True Christians are hated for exposing the pagan roots of their holidays such as Christmas, and Easter, and tolerating abortion, premarital sex, and homosexuality in their memberships. I may write more later Tim. Tara |
Bible Answer: Bible Truth Follows. John 1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth. Revelation 5:8-14 And when he had taken the book, the four living creatures and the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having each one a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy art thou to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou was slain, and didst purchase unto God with thy blood men of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation, and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and priests; and they reign upon earth. And I saw, and I heard a voice of many angels round about the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; saying with a great voice, Worthy is the Lamb that hath been slain to receive the power, and riches, and wisdom, and might and honor, and glory, and blessing. And every created thing which is in the heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all things are in them, heard I saying, Unto him that sitteth on the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and the honor, and the glory, and the dominion, for ever and ever. And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the elders fell down and worshipped. Whatever your views on Jesus, it better be like these above if you want to be in the number that worship the Lamb (Jesus). Most that deny Christ are not worth arguing with, they are blaspheming and opposing themselves, they will not listen to reason because you have to twist too many scriptures to teach such strange things, but I am really just posting this for any that might come across these cult teachings you have posted, those that have not read the bible much need to know that there are hundreds of scriptures that declare the Jesus is the Son of God and therefore God. We pray to the Father in Jesus Name becuase only when we accept the Divinity of Jesus do we have access to the Father. Many will pray "God get me out of this mess" and they feel like their prayers rarely get answered, but when they turn to Christ they are saved and God hears. There is no other salvation but faith in Jesus Christ and all those that deny His divinity will be cursed from His presence forever. 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. This verse alone should be enough to stop the argument and cause all cult members to repent for ever saying Jesus was not God. But I have even heard cult teachers try and twist this verse. They can't do it, and every attempt exposes that they are not honest truth seekers but that they have some hidden agenda and are willing to go to any means to blaspheme Christ. When this happens you have to shake the dust of your feet and move on. Acts 18:6 And when they opposed themselves and blasphemed, he shook out his raiment and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean: from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles. I believe that after Paul prooved from the scriptures that Jesus was indeed the Christ, these Jews in this passage said something that amounted to "even if this is the Christ.. We will not follow him" and so Paul knew there was nothing else to say. When a person takes a verse like 1 Timothy 3:16 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. And says.. it does not mean God here when it says God was manifest in the flesh.. he is doing what John warned us about... 2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 2 John 1:10-11 If any one cometh unto you, and bringeth not this teaching, receive him not into your house, and give him no greeting: for he that giveth him greeting partaketh in his evil works. So this would be a direct commmandment to not play around with JW cult but be direct with them that unless they repent they will indeed find that hell is real and the flames never cease. |