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AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Peter 3:21 Corresponding to that [rescue through the flood], baptism [which is an expression of a believer's new life in Christ] now saves you, not by removing dirt from the body, but by an appeal to God for a good (clear) conscience, [demonstrating what you believe to be yours] through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, |
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Bible Note: Rabban- perhaps I offended you, not my intention. It may have been a simpler thing for you to have just provided scriptural support for your position, if that were possible. The question was not what you were answering in your response, but simply a request for you to provide biblical support for your declaration concerning verse 19. It's the way we go about bible study on the forum. But to avoid being distracted from the point again I will copy and paste your statement that left me with concern. You wrote: "These ‘spirits in prison’ were the angels who sinned in the time of Noah (Genesis 6.1-2). Human beings are never spoken of in this way (as 'spirits' without qualification), while 2 Peter 2.4 confirms Peter’s interest in the angels who sinned in the time of Noah." So that I don’t take up forum space and my time (or yours) repeating my earlier post you may choose to reread it and address it as you determine appropriate. Something else I would ask is that you help me in understanding what you mean by 2Peter 2:4 “confirming Peter’s interest in the angels who sinned in the time of Noah. 2 Peter 2:4 (ASV) For if God spared not angels when they sinned, but cast them down to hell, and committed them to pits of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; This seems to clearly relate to the “Fall” and not to any angel sinning that might have been going on in Noah’s day. Do I have it wrong? Let’s widen it out a bit: 2 Pe 2:4-6 4For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; 5and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter;” When we evaluate this it becomes clear that the writer is describing separate events. First, what we commonly refer to as “the Fall”, then the “Flood”, and then the events of Sodom and Gomorrah’s destruction. Without context we might be tempted to make the individual verses say whatever conveniences our premise. Might I say that it matters little how qualified our Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, or even English scholarship might be measured if this is to be our approach. Your explanation might be a satisfactory one if we could first establish that it is in fact angels that are referred too. However, I would still have a hard time finding in scripture where angels have “fallen” more than one time. That one fall that I am aware of was, as I understand it, significantly before Noah’s time. I’m unaware of another. If your unwilling (or unable) to provide support for such statements I can accept that but please allow me to point out that requests to have statements clarified and biblically supported is within the forum guidelines as is the expectation that members will honor those requests. Sincerely and God bless, Jeff |