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NASB | Hebrews 12:23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Hebrews 12:23 and to the general assembly and assembly of the firstborn who are registered [as citizens] in heaven, and to God, who is Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous (the redeemed in heaven) who have been made perfect [bringing them to their final glory], |
Subject: Are Catholic members consider Christian? |
Bible Note: Hi fcs, No apologies necessary, we forgive grammar as well as spelling (o: You mention adhering to the Holy Bible in its entirety, and I am with you on that, wholeheartedly. However, to look at it from the other side, the RCC says they have the entire Bible and protestants use only part of the Bible. Do you see my point? History tells us that Jerome, considered to be the 'father of the canon' was dead set against including the apocrypha in the canon -and only after being pressured did he relent and put it in a separate section, -like at the back of the Bible. Catholics do believe in Jesus as the Son of God. This is very unlike the mormons, so that comparison gets squashed at the outset. Same with the J.W.'s. Catholics believe in the Trinity. I do think that many catholics are going to heaven, yet for what I learned about the child-abuse scandal, I think that the present pope should be locked up. When you say "the whole counsel of God is taught/preached in truth." you have to realize that catholics believe that they belong to the one true church. So it is hard to argue for truth with someone who thinks you are protesting against the truth. There are those who have left the RCC, and are now walking in the true light, yes. But catholics have asked me, "if we are wrong then how is it that there are so many protestants converting to catholicism? Speaking of 'true light, Jesus is quoted as saying, "I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life." Jn 8:12 Our Savior also said in Jn 8:31-32, " If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. It is just not possible to make a valid point to someone who thinks you are hopelessly lost unless you truckle over to their belief system. Please keep in mind that it is not flesh and blood at the heart of these disagrements. The battle will rage on until Jesus returns. Try to keep a Christ-like attitude toward the lost sheep is all that I can offer. Lord bless, keliy |