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NASB | 2 Timothy 2:11 It is a trustworthy statement: For if we died with Him, we will also live with Him; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 2 Timothy 2:11 This is a faithful and trustworthy saying: If we died with Him, we will also live with Him; |
Subject: what does it mean in chpt2 11,12? |
Bible Note: Well, personally I take these verses pretty much at face value. 1 Timothy 2 11: Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12: And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13: For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14: And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. (NKJ) Verses 13-14 explain why women are not to usurp man's authority. Who was it that fell for Satan's lies? Eve. It was the woman that was deceived. (Adam just ate what his wife served him, see vs. 6 below) Look at these verses: Gen. 3 1: Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, "Has God indeed said, 'You shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?" 2: And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3: "but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die." 4: Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. 5: "For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." 6: So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. In the first place, she chose to totally disregard God's command. In the second place, she fell hook, line and sinker for the lies of the enemy. She reasoned with her mind that the fruit was "good for food" (lust of the flesh?), "pleasant to the eyes" (lust of the eyes?), and "desirable to make one wise" (pride of life?). And when she'd totally messed things up in the worst way possible, she turned to Adam and said, "Here, honey, try this." (My paraphrase) Now many people try to reason that everything changed when Christ came. However, that's not what the verses in 1 Tim. say and after all, they were written after Christ fulfilled His work on earth and ascended back to heaven. So after Christ had come and gone (I say that loosely), we see that God is still telling us that men are to be the leaders, not under the authority of the woman. So what does all of that have to do with a woman preaching? Well, it would take far too long to address all the Scriptures that support what I am about to say so I am just going to condense it down to this: Men and women are not made the same. We may have equal value but we are not made the same. God made us different to compliment one another. He gave man the role of authority (both in the church and in the home). It is to him that God gives the great responsibility of discerning the truth and then leading his flock in that truth. Women's Lib is not in God's plan. In Him, Karen |
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