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Bible Question: How is it possible to tell if a baptist pastor is being a dictator for his own gain instead of following the will of the Lord?
If he is deliberately running members off that go against what he wants isn't that a dictator?
If he doesn't go and visit or call and try to bring the sheep back into the fold, isn't that against the teachings of God?
If he wants to control all the churches money, to the point of running off the church treasurer of the past 20 plus years isn't that a sign of a dictator?
Our church is the 3rd church that this pastor has been over.
He had to be physically removed from his last church by a county deputy sheriff. He was voted out, but refused to leave the building.
I haven't talked to anyone from that church, but now some are starting to wonder if he isn't doing here what he might have started in the other church.
I believe the pulpit committee didnt research enough before presenting him to the church. It was stated that he wanted 3 things before he would entertain the idea of coming to our church.
1-A mailbox be installed at the church
and all church mail come directly to
him.
2-He wanted all church money to be
under one account at the bank.(no
seperate accounts for ladies, mens
or youth groups)
3-He stated that he did not want any
(secret meetings)
I'm feeling the request about the money and the secret meetings should
have thrown up a red flag.
I would think that he must have done
something at the other church to warrant a (secret meeting)
I want to know the truth, I'm concerned about the church splitting.
If he is following the will of the Lord, then I must be in the wrong here.
I really need to understand this so I can do the right thing for the Lord.
On the other hand, if he isn't the pastor he should be, how can I be really sure??

Bible Answer: worriedlamb: Welcome to the Study Bible Forum! You seem to have some high anxiety about your pastor and his fitness for ministry.
Not knowing the complete circunstances, I will give some things to consider.
If yous church has had a comunication issue in the past, having one person be responsible to make sure information is directed to the right people is very importanst. People change positions from year to year, and at times it takes several months to notify the sender of the new persons address. Go perhaps all mail going to the Pastor is a good idea. If there are special meetings or seminars he would be able to know far enough time ahead to put them on the church calendar.
One church I pastored at had more than 6 different bank accounts and even in different banks. There is no way for the treasurer to keep track of all these accounts and give the congreation an accounting. Sometines these little grougs begin to act as if these little accounts are not under the churches authority, and refuse to be accountable. In the a case where there is a church emergency, for insatnce, the plumbing needs repair right this day, and there is not enough in the general fund, the Elders could barrow from a fund and repay it as it can be done. I hope you see my point. Sometimes the these various funds can have a large amount of money, that gathers for years and comes to a rather large sum.
I am reminded at one church I was pastor that I had no raise in 3 years, even though the churches finabces has nearly doubled. However the Missions giving had more than doubled. This can be a very hurtful to the wife of the pastor, and actual cause a pastor to move sooner than he wants, but needs of a family do enter into the picture.
Secrect meetings are a tool of satan. There is not a Baptist pastor who has not heard of a pastor going on vacation, and to return to being voted out. This is not only dishonest and cowardly. God does not honnor these secrect meetings. Once burned in a fast dismissal like stated above, one could be protective to prevent being so hatefully discharged as pastor.
Scripture has several places to consider before you go any further. Hear are sone verses to read and pray about. 1 Chronicles 16:22, and 1 Timothy 5:17 to 19.
I believe the more we think about a problem with or about pastor, we need to spend more time praying for him, then worring about him the sooner we will see the will of the Lord. Remember your pastor is answering to God, and God will deal with him.
In Matthew 18, there too is how to deal with anyone in the church which is in sin.
Have you gone to your pastor and addressed your concerns? If you feel you can't go by your self, take one other person and speak with him. He just might be able to explain what's behind these requirements and open your mind, or even the opposite.
Most hurtful is talking to many others about your concerns, so it becomes gossip. Gossip is evil, do not start it up.
You will be sure that your pastor is the man God has called if you follow what I have suggested. I urge you to go slow and tenderly, with respect and love, as God does hold us responsible for not following our Call by God leaders.
The best protection is a Pastor Relations Committee. The American Baptist Churches of the USA have all the papers for this committee. This is a safe place wher committee members can dialogue with the pastor over concerns, and the Pastor has a chance to put out fires and air his concerns as well. When this is in plave the length of stay for a pastor is extended by many months of harmony.
I would be interested in hearing your reaction to my note to you.

justme

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