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NASB | 1 Timothy 2:12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Timothy 2:12 I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet [in the congregation]. |
Subject: can a women preach and teach men |
Bible Note: Part 2 of 2 Now taking the Bible on the subject the Lutheran Pastors I have contact with, are false teachers, because the give their congregation who are immoral and not born again the false sense of security that they are saved. Joyce on the other hand teaches a strong message of holiness and accountability. As stated I have never heard her teach on the descension but hear her call people to a deeper walk with God in every message. So who is the false teacher according to the Bible, the Lutheran pastor that teaches that the member of his congregation that commits adultery will still go to heaven at their funeral, (yes I have heard this) or Joyce who would say if they did not repent in sincerity in truth they went to hell. I think Joyce is in line with scripture on salvation and the doctrine of salvation by faith over every Lutheran I have met so far. Why am I picking on Lutherans, I am not, I am addressing the doctrine of the pastor that is claiming he is an authority on doctrine and Joyce is not and that he wants to paint her as a false prophet. Biblically she does not qualify but the Lutherans I know of do. Let’s stick to what the scripture says about a wandering star and a false teacher and then see who fits the pattern. If you are honest you have to agree that the pattern is that the bible teaches that the false teacher teaches that you can commit fornication, or that the grace of God allows you to commit lasciviousness., etc. So we say we want to be biblical but few us really do it. Instead we run around calling someone a false prophet because we don’t agree with them. Just say you think she is wrong, instead of calling it false doctrine. Or be biblical and Berean like you claim and use scripture that says a false teacher teaches that doctrine that you are saying she is teaching. You do not have the right to call someone a false teacher unless the bible says that they who teach that are false teachers. I have heard Lutherans say someone who died an unrepentant adulterer is in heaven So I can say according to the scriptures that that Lutheran pastor was a false prophet.. or teachers. Because he taught that the person could have his lasciviousness excused because of the Grace of God, though it was a false teaching and not the true Grace of God which teaches… Titus 2:11-12 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; I would end my posts concerning this thread with the reminder that I am sure there are saved born again Lutherans as there are in other denominations world wide and God knows whose are his and let every man that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. This post is not about Lutheran bashing but how that if this Lutheran pastor thinks he has biblical authority to call Joyce a false prophet I have more biblical authority to accuse the Lutheran doctrine of such and mine is more inline with what the scripture describes as a false teacher. |