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NASB | 1 Timothy 2:12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Timothy 2:12 I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet [in the congregation]. |
Subject: can a women preach and teach men |
Bible Note: Part 1 of 2 I have not read her books. Mainly because I find her teachings are basic daily walk of faith mostly directed toward the emotional issues women face. I have heard her many times on radio and TV and have never heard her say these things. So in all fairness the teaching she is known for is solid and biblical advice for godly living. To call her a "wandering star" and categorize her as a false prophet is a worse sin than what you might be accusing her of. We all have different views about what the descending into the lower parts of the earth means. In Jude the wandering stars and those that Peter and Jude both speak about are demonized false teachers that are hell bound. If you say that about Joyce you have gone too far in your judgments and I would remind you that this is the kind of judgment Jesus said to avoid. Do not take her views and say she is teaching salvation by anything other than Faith in Jesus Christ, because she isn't. If you differ in your views about what the lower parts of earth means, or what the prophesy of David and repeated by Peter.. "thou will not leave my soul in hell.." means.. then you have that right, but you should not call someone a false prophet that interprets it differently, these are areas that are not so clear as you imagine that they are to you. I cannot really tell you for sure what they mean or what "1 Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;" means. I have a view, but it is not the only one. And I do not call those that disagree with me on that issue a false teacher. This kind of fundamentalism is far from the heart of Christ. If you listen to Joyce Meyers for a complete teaching, if you are born again yourself, you will bear witness with her spirit that she is your sister in the kingdom of God and regardless of your difference of interpretations on the mysterious issues, you will find she does not preach anything about the “descending” when sharing the gospel with the lost. Her invitations to the lost are simple and straight forward, repent, and believe on Christ and what He has done for you on the Cross. She does not go beyond that in her altar calls. As many times as I have heard her on TV or radio which has to number in the hundreds living in Dallas all my life, I can tell you that unless you had posted these partial quotes I would have never known she believed that. I want to make one final point. I am sure that if I searched the writings of any teacher alive today I would find something I think is a gross misinterpretation but I am not going to call them a false teacher unless they are saying that Jesus is not God in the Flesh, or saying that you can be saved some other way besides faith in Jesus Christ alone. Let us remember in our "false righteous indignation" (yes there is such a thing) that with what measure we judge others (especially in the church) with that same measure shall we be judged. If we declare a person a false teacher for a controversial area of interpretation, then we will be declared a false teacher when we say something about a scripture that is not 100 percent accurate. Remember we see through a glass darkly, all of us even those that write books to "expose" the teachers they do not agree with. May we be careful to judge nothing (from our own faulty opinions) before the time. 1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. The passage about wandering stars and false teachers… Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. Is declaring eternal damnation for those that are such. If you read all of this passage and compare it with Peters reference of the same group you find there are certain patterns or similarities. (continued on next post) |