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NASB | Colossians 1:18 He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Colossians 1:18 He is also the head [the life-source and leader] of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will occupy the first place [He will stand supreme and be preeminent] in everything. [1 Cor 15:20] |
Subject: is jesus god? |
Bible Note: It's helpful to understand there's been three major Dispensations in the Bible. What is a dispensation, you ask? From BibleGateway: Dispensation (Gr. oikonomia, "management," "economy"). The method or scheme according to which God carries out his purposes towards men is called a dispensation. There are usually reckoned three dispensations, the Patriarchal, the Mosaic or Jewish, and the Christian. (See COVENANT, Administration of.) These were so many stages in God's unfolding of his purpose of grace toward men. God the Father was the Dominent Figure during the Patriarchal Age, Genesis thru Abraham with the Law of Moses during the Jewish Age thru Malachi. Jesus the Son, of course started the Christian Age with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, Matthew thru Revelation. So you see all three of the Godhead did participate in the Creation as evidenced in Genesis with the use of "We" in the first chapter. So naturally, Jesus did Know and Hear all of what went on in the Garden of Eden; He just didn't show Himself like His Father did. But as you've already made clear Christ gets all the preeminence in this Dispensation, as given to Him by His Father. So is it a teamwork thing? Not sure; I'd like to think so as Jesus prays in John 17. And you make a good point when the disciples saw Jesus, they saw the Father, John 14:9. BUT another powerful point proving the distinction of the two separate Beings is the fact that no man can see God the Father and live. Ex 33:17 So the Lord said to Moses, “I will also do this thing that you have spoken; for you have found grace in My sight, and I know you by name.” 18 And he said, “Please, show me Your glory.” 19 Then He said, “I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before you. I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.” 20 But He said, “You cannot see My face; for no man shall see Me, and live.” 21 And the Lord said, “Here is a place by Me, and you shall stand on the rock. 22 So it shall be, while My glory passes by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock, and will cover you with My hand while I pass by. 23 Then I will take away My hand, and you shall see My back; but My face shall not be seen.” One must read all of what God has to say on this matter to gain a full understanding of this Trinity along with the separateness of the Godhead. Keep studying; you'll get it. Go with God in all things, Bill |