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NASB | Ephesians 6:17 And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 6:17 And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God. [Is 59:17] |
Subject: Two swords:is the love of God enough |
Bible Note: Hello Tim, I enjoy reading your posts and notes and am relaying this to you to read what I sent to Ray in case you have stopped looking at this thread. I respect your knowledge of the Scriptures and would like to get some input to my scenario. Hi Ray, Please excuse the delay in my response. Indeed these passages, to me, are a bit complex. Let us go back to the original question: "I am trying to understand why Jesus told his disciples what is cited in Luke: 22: 35-36, referring to the sword." Since Oswaldo Adame does not cite the Scriptures, I will cite them here: (Luk 22:35) And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. (Luk 22:36) Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. First, I must say, the concept of the disciples having swords is a bit odd considering Jesus's ministry of peace. A custom possibly, or from Matthew who collected large sums of money as a tax collector and he had one. But after three years with Jesus, Matthew would have found that he needed it no longer. Or, perhaps the swords were already in the room and the disciples had none, for the terms in verse 38 "Lord, look, here are two swords." does not state that they personally owned them and so they took the swords with them to the garden because of what Jesus said about obtaining one. For reference to the disciples owning swords is silent. Verse 35 starts with "And he said", denoting the same idea of thought as the previous verses. Verse 36 starts with "Then he said", denoting a change of thought. Verse 37 starts with "For I say", ties it to verse 36. I will put it to you that the period at the end of verse 35 should be a comma, and the train of thought should continue through verse 37. Putting these two verses together, I would put it to you that Jesus was directing the thought toward Judas. Judas had the purse and that he should go now and buy his sword of betrayal. Let him sell his covering, his garment, his soul, so the Scripture could be fulfilled that He cited in verse 37. And the other disciples did not discern this, thus their response, "here are two swords", thinking of physical force. And the Lord seeing that they did not understand and Judas was on his way, says, "It is enough", this part is over, the "It", the betrayal, thus Jesus closes the discussion and leaves to go to the garden. This is a senario that comes to my mind when reading this, yet as I stated at the beginning, "a bit complex". Ray, I read your response that the sword was the Word of God, but I don't see that in the context of this discussion concerning the cited Scriptures. terrib |