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NASB | Ephesians 4:11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 4:11 And [His gifts to the church were varied and] He Himself appointed some as apostles [special messengers, representatives], some as prophets [who speak a new message from God to the people], some as evangelists [who spread the good news of salvation], and some as pastors and teachers [to shepherd and guide and instruct], |
Bible Question (short): No more evangelists,pastors,teachers? |
Question (full): Dear RayV.H., Now I know what you meant by, "...everything has been done already..." Every revelation necessary to function as a church is presently available. Fine. I disagree, because obviously the church has not been able to overcome division, dissension and internal strife and prejudice. Bickering over personal opinion is rampant, not only here on this forum, but all over the world, even to the point of war. If we have the information, we are certainly not using it very efficiently, and "...until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fulness of Christ." Ephesians 4:13 NASB, is far off. BUT, HOWEVER, NONTHELESS, my question was a bit more specific. We have a list of 5 gifts, and I have been told by several colleagues (including you, now) that 2 of them are no longer valid in a contemporary sense. (Actually, I've been told a lot more than that! :-) But no one has made mention of the last 3 gifts. If the first two are gone, are the last three as well? Do we no longer have evangelists, pastors and teachers? In Christ Jesus. charis |