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NASB | Ephesians 1:12 to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 1:12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ [who first put our confidence in Him as our Lord and Savior] would exist to the praise of His glory. |
Subject: Does God have a zeal for his own glory? |
Bible Note: Hi Doc, Thanks so much for the response! Great link! This is a good read. One worth tucking away for further study. Lot's of good stuff on this web page. I like John Piper's definition you quoted in your post. He covers the bases well don't you think? The main reason I posted the question is the question "why?". I probably should have posed the question a bit different to focus more on the why. But at this point I'm glad I didn't because the work you pointed out at http://www.desiringgod.org/library/tbi/desiring_god.html is worth reading and hopefully others will take the time to read it. It also helps point to the reason why! Why do we see such a zeal from God regarding His glory? First and foremost in my heart I believe God deserves the glory for all things. Not that it matters one way or the other what I believe because the truth is He does. :-) Here's another quote from John Piper that sums up that thought. "Whatever else is, owes its being to him and so can add nothing to him which is not already flowing from him." With that in mind, who else could possibly deserve the glory but God!? My pursuit of this question "why" is to better understand the reason and to be able to articulate it to others. I've read and heard others make this argument but most fail to answer the question why. I can only attribute that to the fact they either assume everyone knows the answer to why, or they are like me and struggle with the words to explain it accurately are maybe they just accept it as is and do not question the why. Either way for me I seek to understand this better in hopes to draw closer to God and better understand His ways. At this point I would fail miserably trying to put into words my thoughts on why so I will not even attempt to at this time. However, I would like to point to another work by John Piper I ran across in my study that address this question and is well worth the read for anyone interested in this subject. http://www.desiringgod.org/library/topics/gods_passion/god_us_himself.html By the way, thanks for your feedback on the question why. You make four very good points to keep in mind when studying this subject. All good points, all worth keeping in mind! Thanks Brother for all your feed back on this. Good stuff! Your Brother in Christ, Steve |
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