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NASB | Romans 8:17 and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:17 And if [we are His] children, [then we are His] heirs also: heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ [sharing His spiritual blessing and inheritance], if indeed we share in His suffering so that we may also share in His glory. [John 17:24; Gal 3:29; 4:7; Eph 1:3, 11; 3:6; Heb 6:12] |
Bible Question: My question is when are all the saints glorified? |
Bible Answer: Hi, Dorisep... I still need to do a posting on glorification in my series of theological terms in the ordo salutis. Paul writes, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) Christ is the first of our "brethren" to be glorified. "Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming." (1 Corinthians 15:23b) Glorification will consist of reuniting the human spirit with the human body in resurrection. I believe Peter is speaking of this time in his second epistle (cf chapter 3:10-12). See also John 6:39-40. It is interesting to me that death is an abnormal condition. Human beings were never intended to be separated from their bodies. Theologians call the time between death and resurrection the "intermediate state." Even though we go to heaven when we die, it will still be an abnormal condition. God's ultimate purpose is to restore what was lost in the fall. "For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body." (Romans 8:19-23) "The resurrection affirms the goodness of creation. Present creation is good yet corruptible and passing, the direct result of sin, but God, having dealt with sin in the cross of Jesus Christ, will also put an end to corruption. And the result will be to complete reaffirmation of the creation, including human bodies which God has created. The doctrine of the church, therefore, implies the doctrine of the Resurrection. God is not the God of the dead, but of the living (Mt. 22:32). Christ will raise His church to life (1 Cor 15; 1 Thes 4:13-18). The gates of hell (hades) will not prevail against her. "This was the gospel from the beginning. The first promise of grace in Genesis pointed to the Resurrection (Gen. 3:15). Crushing the serpent’s head, overturning the effects of the Fall, must involve the destruction of sin and death; it must mean resurrection. Eve would be the mother of all living (Gen. 3:20). A spiritual or figurative resurrection will not answer the goal of God in creation or in redemption. God made man of the dust of the ground, and that dust He must raise to glory." --Greg Uttinger "The early Christian hope for bodily resurrection is clearly Jewish in origin, there being no possible pagan antecedent. Here, however, there is no spectrum of opinion: Earliest Christianity simply believed in resurrection, that is, the overcoming of death by the justice-bringing power of the creator God. " --N. T. Wright In Him, Doc |
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