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NASB | Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the [preaching of the] message concerning Christ. |
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Bible Note: Hello Joel, Argument is only good in the sense of honest debate, which is what I've attempted to do here; Not argue for the sake of argument or with bitter content. This is a forum for bible study. None of us have all of the answers. With that in mind, you continue to present the argument that there is some sort of revelation apart from faith. In the post I'm responding to now you state that Rick "will be one who comes to God by revelation not by faith alone". In the spirit of honest and true bible study, I ask that you provide scriptural references to support what you have expressed here. I believe that the bible teaches very clearly that "coming to God" is a matter of faith, and furthermore, it is faith alone that accomplishes this in each and every person that does come to Him. This is taught throughout the entire bible and an essential teaching and not a negotiable one. As I am asking it of you, I will again attach some general references that support my position. Hab 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith. Act 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; Act 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Act 26:16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; Act 26:17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, Act 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: Rom 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Rom 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: Rom 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. All of the above verses taken from the KJV Hope this is helpful, Jeff |