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NASB | Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the [preaching of the] message concerning Christ. |
Bible Question:
I hope I'm not out of line with this question, so if you could cut me some slack, I'd appreciate it (hey I'm a college kid what can I say). Anyway, with that aside, I must inquire of you all about faith and knowledge, and of course the infant baptism that rests in between these two. Would any of you say that there is a distinct difference between that of knowledge and faith. Can we have one and yet not have the other, or not have a lot of the other for that part. As you can see I've been having some trouble with this, I've consulted Eph 2:8-10, and other books, but so far I have yielded an inconclusive answer. It all comes to this (well sort of). If you kind of understand what I'm saying here please reply. Thanks I really appreciate it, |
Bible Answer: Hello Natoochton, No need to appologize for asking a sincere question. This is actually a very good question that many of us do or have had. You will get a lot of good feedback from a lot of knowlegeable people on the forum I am sure; so let me just get it started for you. To make a simple statement, knowledge and faith are not the same thing. There is definately a distinction between the two. But they do have a dependency on each other. knowledge results in faith. Look at what the bible has to say about it. Rom 10:17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ. NIV so the knowledge comes first and results in faith. The above verse taken in context with wider teaching of the bible helps to illustrate how our faith actually comes from God Himself. Check this out. Heb 11:1 1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. KJV Notice here that faith involves hope. But the hope results from substance, that is evidence of what we are hoping for. We are told in the above verse, Romans 10:17 that this substance, this evidence, this "knowledge" comes from God. That is, what He reveals to us through His word, resulting in our faith. You mention Eph 2:8 (good) let's look at it quickly. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: KJV Notice the comment "and that not of yourselves". Now the question is, what is Paul referring to? The before mentioned "grace" or "saved through faith". It appears to me that grace is not what is referred to but rather the saved through faith. See the verse before clearly shows that the grace is from God. But the "saved through faith" is being qualified as having come from God as well. In other words, the faith to believe what you have been given knowledge of is not faith you have mustered up yourself (through works), but rather something God has given you. Look at this: Rom 12:3 For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of faith God has given you. NIV Notice the "measure of faith God has given you." One more scripture reference and then I'll handoff to someone else and learn with you from them. Matt 16:16-17 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." 17 Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. NIV Peter had faith in who Jesus was. He had it because he had knowledge, that is, something was revealed to him. What was revealed was revealed from God Himself. So, Peter had knowledge and a resulting measure of faith which was all revealed to him, or given to him by God. Hope this helps. Jeff |
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