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NASB | John 4:24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 4:24 "God is spirit [the Source of life, yet invisible to mankind], and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." |
Bible Question:
JVH0212 why all the hostility? Steve made a point that to him worship is the act of prostrating oneself or at least bowing to the floor in submission. He further said that he sees the words commonly translated as worship to really mean worship through service. Now let me ask everyone that says he is wrong, do you believe many people in the church today worship in humble submission to God? Or do most worship only if they feel okay, the music is just right, this is a song they like, and etc. I will say that Steve’s idea could get dangerously close to works but I think we all understand the difference between that and what Steve is describing. JVH0212 you keep using the argument that to challenge a particular translation we must show or prove to have a superior education. Again I submit there are over 100 Translations of the New Testament and each feels they provide a better translation than they one that preceded them. Language is not cut and dried. I have a friend who is a Greek Orthodox priest that speaks fluent Greek and only uses an original language Bible. We get into many discussions. He would be the first to tell you there are passages where he is not sure what the writer was exactly saying. Body language, inflection, facial expressions are all used to clarify what the user of Greek really means. Now my question to Steve is what exactly do you see as needed for true worship to occur in the church today? |
Bible Answer: EdB ... I do get flak for this view. One correction, is that we do not worship through service. They are separate. I think you are saying we worship becuase of music. But, that is dangerous ... you used the word "feel", which has caused problems, even in love. Both are facts and a commitment. As far as translations, I pointed out the disparity on the translation of the word worship. I look at other languages, Japanese, Arabic and others. I ask how a verse is translated. They do a better job in my view, since they did not use English as part of there translation process. Now to your question ... We need to correctly know - what worship is. The dictionary definition does not match the words in the Bible. - who we worship. While God may be our Friend, we need to worship Him with the names associated with worship. We need to see the wide gap between us and Him. - why we worship. We do have commands and warnings. It also brings us into His majestic presenece and changes us. - how we should worship. We call many activiies worship. But, they usally are not. Some are associated with worship, like singing. Others are not in the context of any worship example, in the Bible - like dancing. - where we should worship. As Jesus said, it is not a special place, but in spirit and truth. I see most churches not set up to have people fall on their faces. I have done it there, I sit up front or along the aisle. Also, I've done it at home. - when we can worship. It take preparation. We need to prepare our heart, soul nad mind. |