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NASB | John 17:12 "While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 17:12 "While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and protected them, and not one of them was lost except the son of destruction, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled. [Ps 41:9; John 6:70] |
Bible Question:
Can I ask why it is assumed that say, the passage in the Gospel of John (chapters 13-17) applies to all individual Christians; yet the passage is (mainly) a monologue addressed to the Apostles. What is the exegetical basis for assuming all scriptural teaching can be applied to any individual Christian, viz. has personal application. (Of course, I realize it is all profitable information; i.e. to hear what Jesus told his disciple would happen to them, but similarly it is interesting and informative to read chapter after chapter of the wrong advice given to Job). For example, John 14:26 states that the Holy Spirit will remind the disciples of everything Jesus has taught them verbally. Certainly, it is being said to the disciples in the first instance. John 14:30 'I will not talk with you much longer...' is specifically addressed to the disciples before His death. How do we deal with the whole issue of whether we can legitimately apply a Scripture to us? Contrarily, John 14:12 is addressed to all believers. 13:38 is about Peter and the rooster. If I thought 17:15 applied to me, it would be virtual blasphemy. What are the general principles for applying Scripture to ourselves, if others are being addressed. Regards Dalcent |
Bible Answer: 2 Tim 3:16 - ALL Scripture, not "some" is profitable. With God ALL things are possible. If He chooses to speak to us by a donkey and we fail to heed His voice, who is responsible? Listen to what the Spirit says as you read the Word . . . If you read God's Word and don't expect to hear God speaking individually to you, you won't! For God's Word also says, "As a man thinks within himself, so is he." (Prov 23:7) Frankly, we must choose to listen first! Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Dalcent, I encourage you to choose to "believe" that God will speak individually to you through His Word, not through His church, but by His Spirit directly to you. How about completing your user profile? Blessings, mommapbs |