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NASB John 16:14 "He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.
AMPLIFIED 2015 John 16:14 "He will glorify and honor Me, because He (the Holy Spirit) will take from what is Mine and will disclose it to you.
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Subject:  An Old Contra-Biblical Doctrine

Bible Note:  Hi, Ed...

And in your emotional and experiential and low view of the Scriptures, how will you be able to make men obedient disciples. As you assert that Reformed theology is wrong -- without even knowing the history or the logic or the word behind it -- what tool have you found to be superior to the very Word of God?

Romans 14:4 (NASB)
4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? …

Where do you get off saying in my emotional and experiential and low view of Scripture?
Where is that coming from? You apply labels like Christmas stickers not to discuss butin attempt to intimidate and belittle another. I know the history of Reformed theology, I know the logic, and I know the handling of the word by Reformers to make their position.

What I have found is if I read Scripture literally without any manipulation of word, definition, context or cherry picking I see the Reformed theology does not line up with what I read.

Reformed theology must always be defined and explained it seem like it can never be taken at face value. Man’s logic must always be used to reason it out instead of allowing the words of scripture stand on their own.

You said
The proof of your success will be men who walk consistently in the fruit of the Spirit. I cannot comprehend the AOG position that places such a low priority on discipleship that way. How in the world does anyone even deal with John 14 and 15 in such a fashion.

What?? For a person to manifest the fruit of the Spirit is a disciple of Christ. I don’t see this as a low priority on discipleship. I see it as fruition of successful disciple making.
Galatians 5:22-26 (NKJV)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

One explained to me, citing the AOG position paper, that the denomination believed that all the "sign" gifts could be manifest in complete absence of the fruit of the Spirit.

Ask him where in the position papers it says such a thing.

For you to repeat that is like me saying Reformed theology teaches pedophilia, which it does not! It is total nonsense and no where in any position paper is it even suggested.

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