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NASB | John 10:30 "I and the Father are one." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 10:30 "I and the Father are One [in essence and nature]." |
Bible Question:
There were great wars over the trinity doctrine in the early church, is there good reason to reconsider this? John 10:22-39 “I and the Father are One.” John 10:30 is equal to saying: We are one and the same. The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. John 10:31 The Jews gathered around Jesus at the time Dedication. They had very high Messianic expectations, wanted Jesus to claim to be that, but in seconds went from desire to follow to desire to kill. “There is no difference between us.” is equal to saying: “If you have seen Me you have seen the Father.” Jesus was deeply hated by the Jews because He directly claimed that He and God were one and the same. The Jews despised the Romans and would want not one of their own turned over for crucifixion. Something had to offend them more deeply than any other thing could for them to demand that outcome, a result the Romans were loathe to take. John 14:7-21 |
Bible Answer: Hi, Says! I understand your concern for removing conflicting doctrines from Christianity... however, I believe that you are being simplistic: it seems to me that, unknowingly, you are removing the Holy Spirit from existence as He is the thrid Person of God, the Paraclete who was sent to us (the Church) by Jesus! If we were to follow with your suggestion, would we not be going against God's own Command that we Worship and Believe according to His Will?: ...go therefore and baptise... (Matthew 28:19) ... and he will abide in you, and the Father and I will abide in you (John 14:16-17, 23) ...it is not a new belief... though the word itself is not found in Scripture, God has identified Himself as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, in numerous ways (Matthew 3:16-17; John 1:33-34); and the apostles understood this as Paul names Jesus as the Rock that gave the water of life to Israel (1 Corinthians 10:4), Peter reveals that the Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4)... we are also taught that we must worship in the three Divine persons (Romans 14:17-18; Hebrews 9:14)... My friend, to deny the Holy Trinity is to deny God His Will to reveal Himself to us as He pleases... are we stronger than He is, that we should challenge Him?: Because of that, I want to make it quite clear to you that no one who says 'A curse on Jesus' can be speaking in the Spirit of God, and nobody is able to say 'Jesus is Lord' except in the Holy Spirit. (1 Corinthians 12:3) God Bless! Angel |