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NASB | Luke 23:34 But Jesus was saying, "Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing." And they cast lots, dividing up His garments among themselves. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 23:34 And Jesus was saying, "Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing." And they cast lots, dividing His clothes among themselves. [Ps 22:18] |
Subject: universalism? |
Bible Note: Dear YenIsa, These are sometimes difficult concepts to understand, but what shall we say of the members of the Sanhedrin that blasphemed against the Holy Spirit by attributing Jesus' power to the Devil? (John 10:20) Matt 12:31b " but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven." Also in light of John 17:9 and all of chapter 17 we can see that Jesus does not pray for the whole world, only for those who the Father has given Him. See also John 10:26 wherein Jesus tells the Pharisees unequivocally that they are not His sheep. Also, Isaiah does not say all, but many. There is a big difference between "all" and "many". So the Scriptures used here do not really support the forgiveness of the sins of all men, (consider too the son of perdition) though the work done by Jesus on the cross did indeed "atone" for all sin, it does not imply however, nor do I think we can infer from Scripture that all sin of all men will be forgiven, so it seems unlikely that Jesus would pray for those who will not be forgiven because they have already committed and are indeed guilty of commiting the unforgivable sin. Besides being futile, it's getting a little close to universalism. John |