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NASB | Isaiah 14:12 "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations! |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Isaiah 14:12 "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning [light-bringer], son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the ground, You who have weakened the nations [king of Babylon]! |
Bible Question:
hi BradK;stjohn thank you so much for your input. I have been active in pentecostal church choirs for about 9 yrs(!has it reall been that long?!), and literally came out of singing half naked in jazz clubs to raising high praise unto the king up kings - covered up beautifully.From the very beginning and throughout, everywhere I've been, pastors and co- workers say this thing about Satan/Lucifer, having such a beautiful singing voice and after his fall he's supposed to target musicians in the body of Christ to exact a peculiar revenge upon us. It is an excuse I heard from the us to europe and africa as to why people in church music often fall in particular into sexual sin and pride. Can it be that just as I searched and found no basis for this, that this is just another trick of the enemy? How ignorant some of us must be that such things with no scriptural support can be so deeply entrenched in our hearts, and accepted even by renowned pastors and speakers!! |
Bible Answer: Hi other.... I just wanted to say this, as I too have spent some time in pentecostal surroundings. And I want to be very careful here, so that I do not offend "any" of our pentecostal Brothers and Sisters. Please... Know my heart. I love them dearly! But, I have gained a deeper and better understanding of God's Word outside of toughs surroundings. And very frankly, I don't understand ether, how they can come to some of there conclusions, when you cant find any real evidence for them in the Holly Scriptures. I do Know this, for the most part they are beautiful, happy, children of God. And I put no blame on them whatsoever. I did find it very frustrating though, trying to point to some of the misconceptions In our Bible study, as they are convinced, "many say" because of there "experience" and some would even say. We know the Bible might say that, but does it really mean that? what about our experience? seeing is believing. One poor woman was convinced that a demon couldn't possess our spirt but it could for-instance live in her big toe. Were are you going to find evidence for that in the Bible? And how do you even argue with that? This, I think, is where we need to be ever so careful. We really need to rely on Scripture for our learning of the truth of God's Word. But more then that, PRAY and ask God. Believe me, I spent many an hour on my face, asking God for the truth, because so many around me were so convinced, and so convincing. But God; "eventually" won that battle. But it did take time. The more you read and study the Bible, and more importantly PRAY and ask, God WILL shed light on the truth. And I can say this. At least for me any way, because it was such a struggle. Once God put the truth in me, well sister, It was branded on my heart! And I can say with all certainty, that the Holly Spirt has made it real to me! And I'm not saying I know it all, Just ask some of the others on this forum that have had to straiten me out! So I believe, "because" of that experience, And, in spite of the love that I received wile there that kept me going and wanting more of God... The inconsistencies of the teaching, Well , that sent me searching, just like it did to you, my dear friend. And that is a good thing! God is a rewarder of toughs that diligently seek Him! So sing and rejoice and be glad in it. And, please don't think I'm suggesting that you leave that congregation. Just let the Spirt of God and His Word guide you. And any time we Can help you here, we would be pleased and honored to do so. Love and peace to you and God bless. stjohn . |