Bible Question:
So you are of the belief that "once saved, always saved". Am I correct in saying this? If so, how do yo account for backsliders? You know, those people who are saved and fall. There is a song out now that sums it up beautifully... "A saint is just a sinner who fell down and tehn got up" (Get Back Up Again, Donnie McClurklan) |
Bible Answer: I cannot speak for inhzsvc, but I can and will speak for myself. FYI: . . . 1) Why do you put words in the mouth of inhzsvc? He does not use the phrase "once saved, always saved." . . . 2) The only people who ever say "once saved, always saved" are the people who don't believe in it, i.e. those who do believe in Eternal Insecurity. . . . 3) Hebrews 6:4-6 clearly teaches "once salvation is lost, it is always lost." "logically v. 4 implies that if salvation were to be lost, it would be impossible for that person to be born again, lose it, and then be born again again. This much is clear: whoever openly and consciously rejects Jesus Christ is unregenerate even if he seemed to have been saved ealier." Whether he had lost his salvation or never had it to begin with, "either way, the result is identical." (note at Heb. 6:4ff, NRSV Harper Study Bible) . . . 4) In the New Testament (KJV) the terms backslider and backsliding do not occur at all -- not even once. Therefore, I see no need to "account for backsliders." . . . 5) I do not base my faith and doctrine on songs. I base it on the Word of God only. Further, no song is infallible. Infallibility and inerrancy extend only to the Scriptures and only in the original manuscripts. . . . 6) Matt 24, verses 22, 24 and 31 all speak of "the elect." Therefore the elect actually do exist. The elect is not a myth manufactured by Mr. Calvin. . . . 7) Matt 24:24 implies that it is NOT possible to deceive the elect, a point to which inhzsvc refers in the first sentence of his answer. . . . Instead of witty comebacks, cliche phrases and quoting the lyrics of current songs, one might wish to try basing his replies on Scripture. |