Subject: What does predestinated means |
Bible Note: You're looking at this from our point of view in linear time, not from God's point of view from eternity. It does not say that God chose the elect by name to be saved. It says those who are with Him are the chosen. Yes, our names are written there, because we believe, not out of a cosmic lottery. Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved" Notice, "saved" comes after "believed". If we had to be chosen first, we'd be chosen to be saved, so we believed. I'm sorry. Feel free to disagree. But the only way to reconcile all of scripture, is for us to have the choice. Otherwise spreading the gospel as Jesus commands is pointless, belife is irrellevant, Jesus' whole ministery of belife is wasted air, Jesus died for nothing, and God does NOT desire that none shall be lost but instead is an evil being who has condemned the majority of people to an eternity of suffering in a lake of fire by HIS will alone. Not to mention, if God chose me specifically for heaven and specifically chose someone else for hell, MAN what a boasting right!! "He chose me and not you and there's nothing you can do about it!! " It just doesn't work. As for your other post on foreknowledge, again I'm sorry, but instead of twisting His words, lets believe what He says. John 6:64 "But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe. There, the word "fore knowledge" isn't used so you can't twist it. It says that Jesus knew who would not believe. Not who were not allowed to believe or not chosen so they couldn't believe. Bless...ArtS |