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8341 | Can you see my position? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6452 | ||
First Us-ward is not a word. If it was I can find no definition so I have no idea in the world what it means. If your going to tell me it means 'saved people', then I must say prove it. Most reliable translations has 'you' in it's place. Since this is the Lockman forum let's for the sake of unity use the NASB which reads "The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." I read "you" as being the reader of this scripture. And being a reader of the scripture does not make one saved. If it was just talking about the saved and God saved everyone why would He have to have patience? All God would have to do is make everyone saved. No waiting required. An interesting side bar to this discussion is the New Living Translation of this verse, “The Lord isn't really being slow about his promise to return, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to perish, so he is giving more time for everyone to repent.” Notice the word “everyone”. |
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8342 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6436 | ||
Thanks I'm always open to further my study | ||||||
8343 | Can you see my position? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6434 | ||
See here is the problem you said you read scripture and it says your right. I say you read scripture wrong. Example 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. I see "all" and to me "all" means all. You say however that "all" only means the ones that God elected. Now we can debate this scripture from here until tomorrow and I will probably continue to see all will see only those called. Who is wrong? If your in my camp you are. If your in your camp I am. Does that mean one of us is in sin. I think not that means one of us sees a passage different. It really doesn't change anything as far as the work of the cross. It just makes us think the other can't read. |
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8344 | Can you mean this? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6432 | ||
Brother You and I are not as far apart as you might think. However I don't think either of us will resolve the issue. Can I say I love you in Christ, and I believe you and I will have will have many days together in heaven laughing as we think about this debate. | ||||||
8345 | What took you so long? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6430 | ||
Yes but without that connection your comments might get lost and I would have hated to see that happen | ||||||
8346 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6424 | ||
Please explain to me how honest Godly men of both persuasions can for over 500 years debate these points with no conclusion? How can there be both ultra and moderate and liberal on both sides? For each point, each text one sides presents there is and equal but opposing scripture. It is not as cut and dried as you make it. I think the problem is no one listens to what the others say. I do not for one moment believe I or any other man short of Jesus Christ is the author of my salvation. I do not believe any man can come to Salvation without the leading or unction of the Holy Spirit. I do not believe man can be saved by works or anything other than grace. However I do not believe in election as defined by Calvin. |
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8347 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6422 | ||
By the way Jehovah's witnesses and Mormons are not jsut in error they are in rebellion. Both have rewritten the scriptures, both have made Jesus something less than God. | ||||||
8348 | Can you mean this? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6420 | ||
That is a very interesting question. One that probably should have been asked 500 years ago. Basically your right Peter set the course if you will, then in about 300 AD Christianity was declared the state religion of Rome and all kinds of weird and unholy doctrine started to come in. Around this time in 350 AD the Bishop of Rome declared himself the head of the church and things started going down hill even faster. Finally in the 1500's the corruption of the church was so rampant that finally a man stood up and said enough. Soon men from every thought and persuasion where shouting to be heard. What you said about power was also true, the ones in power decided what was correct. Not through reason but rather by force. Many men on all sides burned at the stake. Today we are much more civilized we don’t burn people we call them heretics, we ridicule them, debase and mock them, and we even call them lost. How sad it all is when we look at what Jesus wanted. He told us to go make disciples, to be his witness and to share the Good News with the rest of the world. Instead we argue if should baptize infants or not, whether we should sprinkle, dip or drown. We fight about salvation through election or free will, then we argue whether we can loss our salvation or not. And everyone claims to be hearing from God on whatever point it is they stand upon. Maybe we should take a lesson from Acts 15 and let the Apostles decide. By that I mean maybe we should be re-reading first century church history and doing and teaching exactly what they did. If the question we ask isn’t answered by scripture or early church history then maybe we are asking the wrong question. Think about it, before the reformation fractured the church Christianity controlled most of the civilized world. I’m not saying the church at that time was correct, I’m saying they had unity of purpose which the church does not have today. |
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8349 | Can you mean this? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6415 | ||
Brother please re-read what you wrote here. I don't think it is what you meant to say. In the first sentence you said you can be deceived and in last sentence of the first paragraph you said you can't be deceived because God won't allow it. Your whole response leaves me a little confused and I can not find an answer to the question I asked inHzsvc. | ||||||
8350 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6398 | ||
inHzsvc, I'm not trying to answer for JVH0212, but I think you have missed a point. Sin is open rebellion to God. In this debate there is as much scriptural support for the point as there is for the counter point. When one or both points are one day shown by God to be wrong, I believe the guilt will be in, human misunderstanding or presumption rather than sin. | ||||||
8351 | What took you so long? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6396 | ||
Percival who are you talking to? Your comment is not connected to the other discussion on Romans 5:6. so I assume you must have someone or something in mind. What? | ||||||
8352 | How does the wall theory soften? | Mark 10:25 | EdB | 6395 | ||
Morant61 did not give the "rest of the story". Those that support the eye of a needle gate theory further report that for a camel to pass through such, they the camel had to kneel and crawl through on their knees. Thus turning it into a possible situation. However Luke in the original language when relating this story used the term for a medical needle rather than even a common sewing needle. This to my way of thinking eliminates any misunderstanding, Jesus was talking about a literal needle. Also to the best of my study there is no historical evidence of any gates, gateways, or passages being commonly referred to as the "eye of a needle" | ||||||
8353 | Please explain your position | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6394 | ||
Orthodoxy, my soteriology does not carry universal atonement but rather universally applied atonement. In that I mean the atonement that was provided for on the cross can be accepted or rejected by all. I do not imply all are saved, just that all are given a choice. By the way your answer I believe should be an example to everyone in forum. |
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8354 | Can you mean this? | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6391 | ||
inHzsvc, John Gill must be a lawyer (getting paid by word count) :). Obviously I'm of not of the Calvinistic bent, in that I believe God makes us choose, either to follow Him or the lies of Satan. Since you believe we don't have a choice would you explain what Satan is doing? I mean if we can't be deceived because we don't have a choice then what is Satan doing by seeking whom he can deceive? Also Matthew 25:41 seems to imply, at least to me, that the lake of fire was made for Satan and his demons and humans only go there should they reject the gospel of Jesus Christ. You on the other hand must believe that not to be true. If we logically think through your position God created the Lake of Fire for Satan, his demons, and the whole race of people God created to throw in there also. So much for mercy! | ||||||
8355 | Yet another capitalization question? | Heb 7:26 | EdB | 6389 | ||
Ray after submitting my answer I realized I only addressed Heb. 7:26 and not your second or main question. As far as capitalization of "Son of Man" I think the issue comes back to a case of position verses the person in position. In the case of high priest many men served in the that position. However only one can be called the perfect High Priest, that being Jesus. With the position of Son of Man however there is only one that ever can ever be the Son of Man and that is Jesus. Every male can be ‘a’ son of ‘a’ man but none except Jesus can be ‘the’ Son of Man. Therefore since that position can be filled by only one and that one is Jesus Christ, referring to that position should be capitalized. |
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8356 | Yet another capitalization question? | Heb 7:26 | EdB | 6388 | ||
Ray I looked at many other translations and none except NKJV has this capitalized. It was a mystery to me, until it dawned on me they are talking about the position rather than who filled the position. In other words they referring to the position of high priest rather than to Jesus being our High Priest. Even knowing Jesus is in the position of the high priest I think any time we are referring to just the position it should remain uncapitialized. | ||||||
8357 | Why require faith to perform miracles? | Matt 13:58 | EdB | 6338 | ||
I'm glad your not offended as I made no attempt to offend. Hank's question was why did Jesus require faith of those whom He performed miracles. I was merely pointing out that Jesus did miracles to people who were dead and therefore could not exhibit faith in Him. Then Hank asked the relationship between faith to miracles. To this I responded that in some cases faith was required in others no. The bible displays it happening both ways. Do I see a relationship between faith and miracles? In some cases most certainly, in others no. That said let me also say without faith it is impossible to please God, and that my friend is my goal. It is not to see miracles, it is not to perform miracles, it is to please God. Let God be God. I don't put Him in a box or prescribe any formulas. I stand in awe of His tender mercies. That’s Ok, I'm not offended by what you wrote. God bless you also! Ed |
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8358 | Please explain your position | Rom 5:6 | EdB | 6333 | ||
I have a question inHzsvc. What do these three verses mean to you? Do you not see God delaying judgement? Giving every opportunity every chance for yet more to be saved? Doesn't the word ALL mean just that ALL? 1 Tim. 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. Rev. 2:21 'I gave her time to repent, and she does not want to repent of her immorality. |
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8359 | We may be missing something here | 1 Pet 3:20 | EdB | 6331 | ||
Excuse me for butting in but I think we may be missing something. First let’s look at God’s definition of Noah … Noah, a preacher of righteousness… 2 Peter 2:5. Now lets see there was the time of the Arks construction. Then there was seven days after Noah and his family entered into the Ark before the flood. Then we see see this reference in 1 Peter 3:20 … when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. Knowing what a preacher is like does anyone think Noah didn’t preach during this time. And isn’t the patience of God the construction plus the seven days He waited after Noah entered the Ark. Why would God do that unless Noah was preaching during this time calling people to repentance and God givng them one last chance to have a change of heart? 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. |
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8360 | Nebuchadnezzar a true believer? | Dan 2:47 | EdB | 6325 | ||
And now we are reading the hearts of men?????? Come on!! James 4:12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor? Guys there are people dying and going to hell while we squable over Nebuchadnezzar, surely we have better things to do. |
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