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61 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150500 | ||
Yes Candy: Amen !!! I take it - you follow the 7th Day Sabbath and diet laws of God ? Look forward to more discussions. Merv |
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62 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150398 | ||
Tim: Ok - We agree that "under the law" - means that we are guilty of it and must keep it. According to how "I believe" you interpret the NT that "we are no longer under the law" - it means we no longer have to keep the law - RIGHT ?? The reference to Jesus being born during the time of "under the law" meant Jesus musty keep the law but only refers to be guilty in relation to man because man has sin but Jesus does not !!! Man has always been "required" by God to keep law. From the time of Adam - God had a law to not eat from tree of life. This law existed prior to even sin. The Bible says without law their cannot be sin. But even though there was that law - Adam was not guilty before God until he broke it !! So to be "under the law" can have different meaning depending on the time and who is "under the law". But clearly the phrase in the NT that "we are no longer under the law but under grace" can ABSOLUTELY NOT mean that we do not have to keep God's laws. It just makes no sense in the light of all the scripture that requires us to keep His commandments and be obedient to show our love. It would be like saying that although God gave Adam a command to not eat from the tree - Adam didn't really have to keep it. God judges us according to His law because His laws are perfect and holy and just ! Now does this make us or God a legalist - NO !! If we love Him we will obey. It is all about understanding He is our creator and does all things for our good. In love, Merv |
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63 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150393 | ||
Tim: Yes - Sorry for (many) typos. I must double check my responses before I send them !!! Yes - it does not call it a parable !! I agree !! We both understand that scripture is not for private interpretation. When we say in our opinion scripture means this or that - I agree we must be careful not to make scripture "a private interpretation" which scripture condemns. But in relation to prior discussions. When God told Peter to eat the "creepy things" from the sheet. We know that God did not "really" mean for Peter to violate God's own statues on diet but rather to come to understand that Gentiles are now clean !!! In that account of Peter's vision we never see that Peter did indeed eat it but rather disobeyed God. So the key to understanding is seeing the point God is trying to get to the reader. Thanks for the responses, Thomas |
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64 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150345 | ||
Hi Tim: "under the law" means to be guilty of the law Romans 3:19-20 says "by the law is the knowledge of sin" Right - it doen not mean "not guilty it" No being "born under the law" as Jesus was means He was accountable to the law but He never sinned so was never guilty of it as Man was. He came to free people from being under the law because His death replaced the sacrificail system and now through the Holy Spirit we have power to "not sin" and therefore "not be guilty of the law" or "under the law". Jesus cannot be a liar - He told the adulterous woman to "go and sin no more". 1 John 2:4 speaks of God's requirement of our obedience out of love !!! TRUTH Yes Gal.4 does speak of people wanting to return to laws that Jesus replaced at the cross. The sacrificial Mosaic laws were abolished at the cross. DO WE STILL SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS - NO !!! But these laws also included ceremonial days !!! Gal. 3:23 -- Yes only faith can justify not law. After the law lead us to faith in Christ we now understand that we need to be obedient to Christ. But while we were disobedient the law worked on our conscience to lead us to faith in Christ. Look forward to your response, In Love Thomas |
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65 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150343 | ||
Tim: This is why it cannot be a parable. 1) Do we really think that Abraham's bosom is the abode of the righteous dead ? Actually, the agels will gather the saints at Christ's coming - not at a person's death. 2)It says heaven and hell were separated by a gulf yet the persons could converse with each other. Luke 16:26 - will this be true of the saved and the lost ?? 3) The rivh man was in hell with a body. He had eyes, a toungue, ... Luke 16:24. How did body get into hellfire instead of into the grave ?? No one teaches that bodies of the wicked go right to hell when they die !!! 4) The request for Lazurus too dip the tip of his finger and come through the flames to cool the rich man's tongue is obvioulsy not literal. The whole story is parabolic !!! Merv |
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66 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150025 | ||
Hi Brad: Rom. 14 does not address unclean/clean food according to God's laws on what animals are clean or not in Leviticus. The clean/unclean issue was contamination by idols. This same kind of misinterpretaion is used in Math 15 - Mark 7 - Acts 10/11 to claim all foods are clean which is absolutely not true. God would not call an animal abominable in one place and them say it is clean. Absolutely not. Animals are unclean because God said so becuase they are carnivors. Col. 2:16-17 is talking about the ceremonial special days in which they did food and drink offerings. (See Lev. 23 which clearly shows the difference between the 7th Day Sabbath and the additional sabbaths/feasts/new moons. And I agree that judging should not be done. But we should search for the truth. Thomas |
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67 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 149408 | ||
Luke 16:22 - this passage refers to a parable only. Mark 9:46 --- The question is does "unquenchable" mean buring forever (eternity) Please look at Jeremiah 17:27 and 2 Chronicles 36:19. Jerusalem was destroyed with unquenchable fire. Is Jerusalem still buring today ??? In love, Merv |
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68 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 149407 | ||
Brad: Exactly !!! Sin shall no longer be master over us !! Why -- because we will keep the law !!! That is why Jesus says "If you love me keep my commandments" Being "under the law" does not mean - we are obliged to keep it. No no !!! It means to be guilty of it !! Being no longer under the law (Rom. 3:19) means we are no longer guilty before God because we have accepted the perfect sacrifice for our "past" sins. Now that we are free from being guilty before God or "under the law" we can now go forth with the power of the Holy Spirit to live in love and obedience to God. We will no longer willfully sin if our heart is changed by what Jesus did for us !! In love, Merv |
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69 | Pagan doctrines are in the Church !!!! | NT general Archive 1 | swerv | 149403 | ||
Brad: This is a good question. Maybe it can be looked at from the perspective of history. The Reformation came as a result of careful study of scripture and searching for Truth. It did not happen overnight. Jesus and Paul taught about fasle doctrines during their time. Has Christianity evolved into a perfect state ? Does the devil take a break in trying to lead people away from Christ ? I do believe the answer is no for both questions ! As I have stated before I have grown up in a Methodist and Baptist background. But real understanding and truth comes from earnest study of scripture. I do believe there are many false doctrines that are not supported by scripture. Please respond if you would like to discuss these doctrines further. In love, Merv |
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70 | Is the dietary law still in effect | Acts 10:13 | swerv | 149400 | ||
Mark: I respectfully disagree with your interpretation of my intentions. If you disagree you are free not to continue a discussion on a certain topic. I have searched topics of my interest. I think that is why this forum ables people to use the SEARCH FUNCTION. I will not withdraw from this forum. But I will not respond or continue a discussion with someone - if that is the request. I have had many great discussions on this forum and I look forward to many more. If you would like to answer my question as to "where in Acts 10 or 11 does Peter give the interpretation that all animals are now clean to eat ?" - please feel free. Thank you, Merv |
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71 | Is the dietary law still in effect | Acts 10:13 | swerv | 149399 | ||
Hank: Unfortunately - you have been the only one to make issue with my discussions. I have had many great discussions with many others. Is there only ONE doctrine that this forum presents. If so I would like to see where it is stated. I do believe that all denominations which differ in doctrine also agree that the Bible is the inspired Word of God. So we have different views coming fromt he same book. So I take it you say this forum is for only discussing common views but where there is disagreement it should not be discussed. Just because discussions lead to disagreement does not mean that they are not healthy and growing experiences. I will continue to ask questions and answer questions based on my study of the Bible. I do believe everyone else on this forum responds the same way. Fortunately, we do live in a time when we are each freely able to read the Bible and search for the Truth. Jesus taught Truth and was and example of the Truths of the Bible. I do believe we are challenged to do the same. Standing for freedom to learn and express Truth, Merv |
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72 | Hank - Doctrine from God or Man ? | Bible general Archive 2 | swerv | 149398 | ||
Hi Mark: No I do not believe salvation is gained / lost over and over. I think scripture is clear that God will look at the evidence of our faith to see if is right in the eyes of God. God is the only judge !! Our obedience reflects our love. If no obedience or heart of change then how do we say the Holy Spirit is leading us to follow Christ. Intentional sins reveal our hearts condition. God is not concerned about a certain repentive time in our lives - but rather a heart that reflects Christ's example. The Bible clealy teaches that many many Christians will call on God but He will say He does not know them. Of course the time we repent is a great day but if it is not followed up by the earnest desire to obey God then what was the repenting a beginning of ? In love, Merv |
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73 | Is the dietary law still in effect | Acts 10:13 | swerv | 148742 | ||
Hank: I am not pushing a denomination. My beliefs reflect a denomination - yes. You must not agree that discussion is debate when there are differing opinions. I look forward to more discussions. Love in Christ, Merv |
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74 | god helps those who help themselves | Prov 28:26 | swerv | 148737 | ||
Yes I love all Christians. I am not Catholic bashing. I am against religious doctrine that does not agree with the Bible and leads people away from the Biblical truth. Everyone is only accountable to God - not to man. Look where Jim Jones lead his followers. If incorrect doctrine is being taught then to point it out is not bashing. Warning people is the same as Jesus did to His own disciple - when He warned them about false prophets and teachers. Study and show thyself approved !!! Scripture is clear we are each responsible to flee from error and cling to truth. If this offends then maybe I should re-examine my approach. Health discussion and debate brings about knowledge and belief. Sorry if I offend you ! We are to love our neighbor !! Merv |
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75 | Why take UNCLEAN animals onto The Ark | Acts 10:11 | swerv | 148733 | ||
Hi: See I have a probelm when people are so negative about laws. Of course we can do absolutely nothing to atone for our sins. Only Jesus can take away sin through His shed blood. But Jesus clearly teaches us in the NT that if we love Him we should keep His commandments. If we recognize Jesus and God are ONE then how do you not think we need to keep the law which points out sin. Any law or commandment which was meant to keep us from sin is good in the eyes of God. Please explain why God would set a law in the garden of not eating from the tree when they had not yet sinned ???? They were perfect and sinless up until they broke God's command. If we do not need to keep His laws now are we somehow better than Adam ort Eve. The truth is God expects obedience and uses His law to test our faithfulness to Him. It has nothing to do with saving us from our sins. Those sacrificial laws have been done away at the cross but not His law that points out sin. Diet would be included as a law to follow. It is about either treating our bodies selfishly or treating them like the "temple of God" Read Daniel 1 to see how Daniel looked upon following Gods diet about meat. In love, Merv |
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76 | romans chapter 14 verse 5 | Rom 12:2 | swerv | 148709 | ||
Hi Emmaus: How does this answer Rom. 14:5 regarding keeping a day or not. I believe Monica is refering to the discussion of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is clearly Saturday so the point of most discussions is if the NT provides evidence of a change. Certainly there is no evidence of Gof the Father or Jesus making any change. Unless you can provide proof. Rom. 14:5 is discussing the holy days that the Jewish Christians thought the Gentiles should be keeping. These feasts days or "sabbaths" (Lev. 23) are separate from the 7th day Sabbath. The Sabbath was created before sin even entered the world. The Sabbath is apart of the 10 Comm. - the feast days, new moons and "sabbaths" are apart of the Mosaic Law or ceremonial law which pointed to Christ and was done away with at the cross. But since the Jews had a problem with circumcision - they also had a problem giving up these "special days" But God nowhere did away with the 7th day Sabbath. Look forward to discussing !!! Merv PS -- Many people hold that there was no law prior to Sinai !! Do you agree ?? Remember even though Adam and Eve were perfect and sinless they still were asked by God to be obedient by a law "do not eat from the tree" ???? |
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77 | Is it ok to eat animals for food | Acts 10:13 | swerv | 147805 | ||
Human are made out of meat (muscle) - but we are not canibals !! | ||||||
78 | Is the dietary law still in effect | Acts 10:13 | swerv | 147778 | ||
Sorry Jonny: Listing verses does not justify a doctrine. Where is the evidence in Acts 10 or 11 of Peter understanding he could now eat all things ?? Merv |
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79 | Is the dietary law still in effect | Acts 10:13 | swerv | 147777 | ||
Sorry Jonny: Listing verses does not justify a doctrine. Where is the evidence in Acts 10 or 11 of Peter understanding he could now eat all things ?? Merv |
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80 | Why take UNCLEAN animals onto The Ark | Acts 10:11 | swerv | 147776 | ||
The unclean animals fed off of the dead animals that died. Look how the oceans are kept clean !!! All things have a purpose just like 1 Tim 4 says. We are still to follow God's diet if we choose to eat meat. Merv |
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