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61 | Pre update NASB | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 67108 | ||
Hank, I am no English expert, so teach me something here bro! You said that “thee” and “thou” can be used in the plural as well as in the singular. Does this also apply to the KJV? I can find plenty of verses in the KJV where both “thee” and “you” are used. It seems to me that in all cases that “thee” applies to one and “you” is used to show the places where God is talking to more than one or to show that what God is saying applies to more than one. Also, is the Greek/Hebrew different for thee/thou than it is for you/your? Here’s yet another example of what I see: 1Co 12:21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. "Hand" is singular so the pronoun "thee" is used. "Feet" is plural so the pronoun "you is used. Thanks for your impute of wisdom!, retxar |
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62 | Pre update NASB | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 67248 | ||
Well, if you be a know'n what you be a talking about, you got a heap more folk than myself to straighten out, including the sponsor of this bible study forum! Luke 22:31 Simon, Simon (Peter), listen! Satan has asked excessively that [all of] you be given up to him [out of the power and keeping of God], that he might sift [all of] you like grain, (AMP) Luk 22:31 "Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to have all of you, to sift you like wheat. (NLT) Luk 22:31 "Simon, Simon, listen! Satan has asked permission to sift all of you like wheat, (ISV) Luk 22:31 "Simon, Simon, behold Satan has demanded to sift all of you like wheat, (NAB) Luk 22:31 "Simon, Simon, listen! Satan has demanded to sift all of you like wheat, (NRSV) Luk 22:31 "Simon, Simon, I tell you that Satan has obtained permission to have all of you to sift as wheat is sifted. (WNT) retxar |
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63 | Pre update NASB | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 67277 | ||
EdB, I like that Tim, he's a good dude! I think the reason the NKJV, NASB, and ESV are not more clear here is because they are all more of a word for word translation written in modern English, which simply does not have 2nd person pronouns that differentiate between singular and plural. Maybe adding words to clarity would go against the word for word translation principle. I primarily use the NKJV, which, of coarse, is written in modern English, which, of coarse, does not use thee’s and thou’s. However, if one knows how they are supposed to work, it would help in passages such as this and is a lot simpler solution than having to look up the Greek when the passage could read either way in modern English. retxar |
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64 | Pre update NASB | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 67459 | ||
Thank’s Hank! It’s good to know that scholars as Tim and yourself have let me know that I’m not totally off track anyway! I only know hillbilly, not real English, and only a little Hebrew and a little Greek. The little Hebrew owns a shoe store and the little Greek owns a restaurant! later bro, retxar |
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65 | Does God help those that help themselves | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 68232 | ||
James 2b-3 Yet you do not have because you do not ask. You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures. My study of the bible tells me that God helps those that allow Him to help them. What have you read that supports the statement "God helps those that help themselves"? retxar |
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66 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 68464 | ||
Actually Jesus did make grape juice, as wine is fermented over time by the process of decay, which cannot be present in new wine. | ||||||
67 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 68489 | ||
I quess my thinking is why would Jesus create something with rot and decay for the purpose of it containing a poison to alter the thinking of those who cosume it? Could Jesus not create it without the rot and decay and thus without the poison? Not given to much wine? The only place I can find wine spoken of in positive light in scripture is for medicinal purposes, which would certainly mean "not much", if one thinks that “not at all” is wrong. What about that husband of one wife thing? Using the same line of reasoning, must we also conclude this means others can have more than one wife, as others on the forum are trying to convince us of? I will not be dogmatic about this issue, and believe me, I have fought the demon of legalistic bondage many times, so I am not trying to make up some rules that will make someone “more spiritual”. However, one thing I cannot ignore about this issue is the fact that alcohol was always forbidden for kings, priest, and prophets. Jesus was all three, and we as believers have been made kings and priests to the Father by Jesus (Rev 1:6), so that would also apply to us. In light of the fact that alcohol brings so much pain and destruction upon people, I would think it at least unwise for any Christian to consume. I have no desire to drink alcohol, so maybe that is why I see this issue as I do. But if I had that desire (to consume alcohol) the issues I have brought up would be major hurdles for me to clear in order to put alcohol consumption in the category of things that God is pleased for Christians to participate in. Patiently waiting for that grateful apology! (just kidding bro) retxar |
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68 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 68516 | ||
There are plenty of things in the bible that can be referred to as "wine" without meaning intoxicatiing alcohol. Does any verse in the bible say wine that contains intoxicationg alcohol is good for anything other than medicinal purposes? retxar |
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69 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 68571 | ||
I object to alcohol consumption personally, and also to anyone that cares to ask, on the grounds that it is forbidden in scripture for kings, priest, and prophets (Pro 31:4, Lev 10:9, Isa 28:7, Eze 44:21), and thus NT believers (Rev 1:6, Rev 5:10, Rev 20:6, Isa 61:6, 1Pe 2:5). Why would I want to risk being disqualified for that? Why would I want to put a flammable liquid in my body, which outside an alcoholic beverage container has the word “poison” written on it, a skull and cross bones, the 1-800 poison control hotline number, and the urgent instructions to call 911 and get to the nearest hospital emergency room pronto in case of ingestion? How much sense does that make? Did God really design the human body to endure such abuse? If I assume (falsely) that all references in scripture to “wine” are referring to the fermented fruit of the vine that contains alcohol, as you have, I can clearly see the point you are trying to make. However, when I do that, I have conflicting scripture to sort out that I do not know how to handle. How do you deal with that? do not be drunk with wine but be filled with the Spirit! retxar |
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70 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 68641 | ||
Thanks bro! | ||||||
71 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 68645 | ||
Thanks my friend, Thanks you for your insight and knowledge you bring into this discussion. retxar |
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72 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 68657 | ||
John, Thanks for answering my question bro. I guess I was looking for a verse that spoke of the actual consumption of alcohol being a good thing, rather than what the wine was used as to represent as being a good thing tho. Wine, after all, represents the blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, so of coarse that is a good thing! I was not clear on what I meant, so thank you for the verses you provided. Let me comment on the Luke reference you gave: You said: “Evidently Jesus did not condemn wine, for He said: Luke 5:39 "And no one, after drinking old wine wishes for new; for he says, 'The old is good enough.” This has nothing to do with whether Jesus approved of did not approve of the consumption of alcoholic wine. Just because He used it in His illustration does not say anything in anyway concerning the matter. He used the illustration of old wine/new wine to drive home the point of the parables He was teaching. The message He was preaching was that a new work in the Spirit (new wine) would not work in the hearts of those who were hung up on the traditions of men (old wine shins). The old wine represented the traditions they were hung up on. The new wine represented the new work that Jesus wanted to do in their life. Jesus said “The old is good enough” to tell us that some will chose the traditions of men over the new work of the Spirit that God wants to do in their heart, because they automatically assume (falsely) that the old has to be better. The church even has a song they sing that confirms what Jesus was talking about. It’s called, “Give me that old time religion, it’s good enough for me!” So, unless you have a better take on this passage than me, it has nothing to do with Jesus’s opinion of the evils/virtues of alcohol, only the hearts of men. I guess the only other question I had to ask was the question Tim has already asked you concerning the biblical definition of “not much” wine. How could anyone possible know where that line is unless they had crossed it at least once? I will review you response to Tim more thoroughly, but a, “well he just knows”, does not seem quite right to me. This seems like it might work for an experienced person who has consumed “not much” wine for a while, but I don’t see how this is going to work with those who want to drink and are just starting out. Seems to me he would have to do quite a bit of drinking before he got the hang of it. And to avoid sin he would have to work his way up to that line, instead of working his way back, as is usually the case. As I said, I will study your response further. Anyway, John, thanks for bringing Rom14 into this discussion. Where I live, there is no way around the fact that alcohol consumption by a Christian will offend both believer and non-believer alike, so Rom14 has to be a consideration to anyone, regardless which side of the issue one takes. As I have already said, I will not be dogmatic about this, and will not judge you or anyone else concerning this. I have spoken here as I would plead to those in my own family concerning the issue of alcohol consumption, so forgive me if I have seemed judgmental in anyway. This issue, as you said, is indeed one of individual choice, I just see no good that can come out of consuming alcohol, and see much harm that can, and does, result from it. The issue of our obligation as kings and priest by Jesus is something I would like you to consider, as this has not been addressed by you or anyone else.. “Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.” (Rom 14:19) retxar |
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73 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 68659 | ||
Thanks Hank, The morrier you post, the funnier you get! retxar |
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74 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 68713 | ||
Are we kings and priest? | ||||||
75 | making wine.Did Jesus make a mistake. | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 68736 | ||
Thanks bro. That's the way I see it too; we are kings and priest and that position will be fully realized when we are with Jesus. Thanks for your exchange with me on this issue and for considering the point I was trying to make; our conduct is important because Jesus has put us in a position of influence and obligation as kings and priest. I am glad you see what I have presented as wise guidelines to follow and that they do apply to us. Like I have already said, I will not be dogmatic about this, and I will not impose what I accept as a command for myself, on others who see it as only a guideline. God bless my friend, retxar |
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76 | IS MICHAEL AND JESUS THE SAME PERSON? | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 69261 | ||
Is Jesus the Angel of the Lord - yes Exo 3:14 John 8:24,28,58 I Jesus Michael the Archanel - NO Read Hebrews chapter 1 in any translation you want (even the corrupt NLT!), and you will know that Jesus is no angel! Heb 1:4 having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. Heb 1:5 For to which of the angels did He ever say: "You are My Son, Today I have begotten You"? And again: "I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son"? Heb 1:6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: "Let all the angels of God worship Him." Heb 1:7 And of the angels He says: "Who makes His angels spirits And His ministers a flame of fire." Heb 1:8 But to the Son He says: "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom. Heb 1:9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions." Heb 1:10 And: "You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands. Heb 1:11 They will perish, but You remain; And they will all grow old like a garment; Heb 1:12 Like a cloak You will fold them up, And they will be changed. But You are the same, And Your years will not fail." Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels has He ever said: "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool"? Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation? Jesus is Lord! retxar |
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77 | IS MICHAEL AND JESUS THE SAME PERSON? | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 69262 | ||
that should say "corrupt nwt" not "nlt", sorry folks retxar |
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78 | IS MICHAEL AND JESUS THE SAME PERSON? | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 69287 | ||
I posted this on my break at work today, so that's the reason for the typo! (good excuse anyway!) I now see another one! "I Jesus an Angel" should say "Is Jesus an Angel". Thanks for keeping me straight bro! retxar |
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79 | what is baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | retxar | 115087 | ||
There were probably 100 or so post in this thread from 2 years and 3 months ago. There were ton's of scriptural evidence presented then to prove the fact that the Bible consistently teaches salvation by grace thru faith alone, and it occurs before water baptism. These questions raised were never addressed and were continually avoided. After over 2 years I assume things remain the same and choose not to give this topic another stage to preform on again. I am flattered that you choose me as the one you wanted to get back in the ring with tho! Jesus, not water, STILL saves! retxar |
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80 | How was books in KJV compiled? | OT general | retxar | 3752 | ||
I know I’m in the minority here as this is a NASB forum, but I prefer the NJKV as a modern, literal translation, over the NASB, because I believe it is based on more accurate text. The NKJV is based on the Antioch manuscripts, where the NASB is based on the Alexandia manuscripts that you mentioned. I base my belief on Acts 6:7, 12:24, 13:49, and 19:20 which describes the Word of God as growing, spreading, and multipling. This seems to describe the Antioch manuscripts. The Alexandria manuscripts pretty much just stayed on the shelf and did not grow, spread, or multiply. The Alexandia manuscripts as you stated correctly, are the oldest. However they are highly suspect, as they were isolated, away from the Church and under the control of one group of people. Age alone does not make them the most accurate. The additions as you mentioned, could have just as easily been deletions of the earlier, rather than additions of the later. I am not dogmatic about this and my pastor, who is my closest brother on Earth, would probably agree with you. Jesus Lives! |
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