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61 | Baptized into his death | Rom 6:3 | lookinforacity | 204087 | ||
Hi BradK Here is the answer (NO) I did not imply any such thing. I do not believe we need to be baptized to be saved, my personal belief is, Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; I would suggest that if you have a problem with what PETER has written where it sounds like he has contradicted himself, then you should do the foot work to settle the question for yourself. As far as I am concerned, the Bible DOES NOT Contradict itself at all, even IF we think it does, when we come to a point of contradiction, misunderstanding, or just plain old I don't know what it is saying, then God is saying to YOU, (STUDY !) The verse I believe you are referring to is 1 Pet 3:21. I have looked it up in the Amplified Bible. this translation gives a clearer wording of the verse. Hope this will clear things up for you. 21And baptism, which is a figure [of their deliverance], does now also save you [from inward questionings and fears], not by the removing of outward body filth [bathing], but by [providing you with] the answer of a good and clear conscience (inward cleanness and peace) before God [because you are demonstrating what you believe to be yours] through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. So as we now see we can use this verse, in support of water baptism, I for one, will make sure I use the Amplified Version, when doing so from now on. Have we all besides Pattii learned something out of all of this? Have a Happy ! ! |
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62 | gifts of Spirit in Heaven | 1 Cor 12:1 | lookinforacity | 204065 | ||
Hi again Doc: Sorry about whatever misunderstandings I may have had about this Forum. I have taken the time to go back to your first note to me, (Because it is all about seeking the truth.) Maby this will make my position a little more clear, please understand that these beliefs are soly my own, this is MY opinion on what the scripture says, and the way I interpret them. How are we to minister to those in the world, if we cannot use any of the gifts of the spirit? As Jesus is our example, he used those gifts? Or are we to assume, Jesus was the Christ, and therefore Diety, and being part of the Godhead, was not an example to us at all, on the grounds that he was God Incarnate, thus it was His Holy Spirit. So he could not be an example to us, on how to perform in the gifts of the spirit. Although it could be argued, that Jesus was in all aspects, a man (human) with all the weaknesses, and frailties as we are. On those grounds, plus the fact, he had the Holy Spirit Come down upon him like a dove,during Baptism, can we assume he was also baptised in the Holy Spirit? The same way we receive. John 1:29 The next day he *saw Jesus coming to him and *said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! John 1:30 "This is He on behalf of whom I said, 'After me comes a Man who has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me.' John 1:31 "I did not recognize Him, but so that He might be manifested to Israel, I came baptizing in water." John 1:32 John testified saying, "I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him. John 1:33 "I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me, 'He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, this is the One who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.' John 1:34 "I myself have seen, and have testified that this is the Son of God." As another example there is Paul, he ministered to the people, using the Gifts of the Spirit He was fully Man, a Jew of Jews, of the tribe of Benjimen, a persicuter of the faith, but we see that God, used him in a mighty way. God not being a respector of persons, filled him with HIS Holy Spirit. Acts 19:11 God was performing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, Acts 19:12 so that handkerchiefs or aprons were even carried from his body to the sick, and the diseases left them and the evil spirits went out. |
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63 | 2Kings 3:16 version discrepancy, ESV/NAS | 2 Kin 3:16 | lookinforacity | 204034 | ||
Hi again Psionspace: Hope Im not bothering you but, Im courious. I personally have used the KJV since I got saved, and have never felt the need to study any other trans. I use a Strong's concordance, and a Greek interliner bible, in conjunction with the KJV, the only other book I use, is the Matthew Henery Commentary. I use it sparingly, most times just to see what things were believed way back in our brief history. sorry for any inconveniance. have a happy! ! |
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64 | so spiritually minded no earthly good? | Luke 10:33 | lookinforacity | 204030 | ||
HI STEVE: Yes there were some assumptions made, the way the question was asked, it was a light hearted answer, to a light hearted question, no harm, no foul. The answer was written in such a way, as to give some information, and possibly make it a little more enjoyable in trying to understand why the Priest, and the Levite didnt help in the first place. I dont believe I have contradicted myself in any way. If you cant see how they were so spiritually minded, then think about this for a moment, they were, a Priest, and a Levite. Teachers of the Law, studying all the time to find themselvs worthy. Making sure every Jot, every Tittle was in place. But they were not awair of the Love, Compassion,Charity,of God in his Law. They were only awair of the LETTER of the Law. Thats the point I made! I can take from the assumption you made, that you couldn't give any reasion why they didnt't help, you only gave a resounding NO. In your mind they weren't spiritually minded at all. They were a Priest, and a Levite, they sure should be spiritually minded, they were the ones that the people looked to for guidence. The quote that was used for the question, "They were so spiritually minded they were no earthly good " is what is called a back handed compliment. The quote itself, conceeds the spirituality of the Priest, and the Levite. |
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65 | so spiritually minded no earthly good? | Luke 10:33 | lookinforacity | 203976 | ||
Hi Brother: My feelings on the question, the way you asked it would be a resounding YES ! I have to also assume that you were talking about the Priest, and the Levite. The quote you used, I believe could be understood this way, in relation to them. They were living by the LETTER of the LAW, not by the SPIRIT of the LAW. Being devout, they were probably worried that they might get BLOOD on them, and then they would be defiled, they would then have to go through days of sepperation, followed by ritual baths, for clensing. The positions they held, would have made it impossable for them to conduct their daily buisness. Soooo, now we come to the Smaritan, as far as the blood was concerned, it didnt bother him, because according to the Jews, he was already unclean. Im sure he wasnt thinking that when he helped the person, that was beaten. He just reacted as a person that kept the LAW in his heart, thus becoming a Law unto himself, by doing unto others as he would have done unto himself. Being uneducated, in heavenly things, as the Priest, and the Levite were, he acted righteously. In conclusion, they had so much learning, on the spiritual, that they could, or would not do those things we should do as mere men. " They were so spiritually minded, they were of no earthly good " |
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66 | gifts of Spirit in Heaven | 1 Cor 12:1 | lookinforacity | 203959 | ||
Hi Doc: You're right, I missed it, I looked for it in the Gateway Bible, and it didnt come up. Sorry for the inconvenience. One last thing, did you ever answer the question put forth by Librarian? We apparently have a differance of opinion, dont you think Librarian should hear both sides of the issue. All you would have to do is post your belief, rather than having a debate with me on theological beliefs. Then let the person who asked the question, decide which answer they wanted to accept. |
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67 | gifts of Spirit in Heaven | 1 Cor 12:1 | lookinforacity | 203949 | ||
Hi Doc: Maby you could enlighten me as to where it says. The Gift of Evangelism ? Please would you give your reasons, for apparently disagreeing with the post I put up to Librarian. |
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68 | gifts of Spirit in Heaven | 1 Cor 12:1 | lookinforacity | 203911 | ||
Hi Doc: In the answer I gave to Librarian, I listed Luke:10. When Jesus sent out the 70. I intentionally left out the referance to Mtt.10, because of the admonition to the disciples to not go to the Gentiles, but only to the lost sheep of Israel. How are we to minister to the world, unless we have been endued with the same power they were. If we believe we have received the Holy Spirit, at Baptism, then we HAVE BEEN endued with power as they were. We as believers,have been told by Jesus, to do as we have seen him do, and far greater. How can that be accomplished, unless we have that POWER residing in Eartehin Vessles. Paul lists for us the gifts of the Spirit. 1Cor.12 All of those gifts listed, are for the Body of Christ, are we at that point to believe that Jesus, and God himself, didnt intend for us to take that power to the lost of the world. 1Cor.2:4-5 Paul didnt preach to them in the wisdom of Men, but in the power, and demonstration of the Spirit, so that there faith wouldnt be in the wisdom of men but in the POWER of GOD. 1Cor.4:20 For the Kingdom of God is not in word, but in POWER. |
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