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61 | confused about Noahs son | Gen 9:22 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209624 | ||
Okay, last response and then maybe we should move on to bigger and better subjects. Did Ham uncover his father's nakedness, or simply see it? Stand in His grace and welcome to the forum, WOS |
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62 | confused about Noahs son | Gen 9:22 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209622 | ||
Yes I did. And I understand that you see it meaning the father’s wife's nakedness as well. Understandable. However, this is a different circumstance, different occasion and different happening. What you refer to in Leviticus refers to incest. Nothing of the sort is actually stated or implied by the scripture reference in Genesis. Noah was simply in a drunken state, unawake and unaware of his exposed self. By implying that some sort of incest or sexual act had taken place, you would be hard pressed to reconcile how his other two sons reacted and be purely speculative. Genesis 9:23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness. Noah was simply uncovered in his tent as Genesis 9:21 states. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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63 | confused about Noahs son | Gen 9:22 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209620 | ||
No rick. Scripture is pretty clear. But just in case you missed the scripture with this post, here it is again. Genesis 9:22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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64 | Complete Corruption of Human Nature | Job 15:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209589 | ||
Amen Doc, And so we should pray and plead with our Lord: Psalms 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. ““Create.” What! has sin so destroyed us, that the Creator must be called in again? What ruin then doth evil work among mankind! “Create in me.” I, in outward fabric, still exist; but I am empty, desert, void. Come, then, and let thy power be seen in a new creation within my old fallen self. Thou didst make a man in the world at first; Lord, make a new man in me! “A clean heart.” In the seventh verse he asked to be clean; now he seeks a heart suitable to that cleanliness; but he does not say, “Make my old heart clean;” he is too experienced in the hopelessness of the old nature. He would have the old man buried as a dead thing, and a new creation brought in to fill its place. None but God can create either a new heart or a new earth. Salvation is a marvellous display of supreme power; the work in us as much as that for us is wholly of Omnipotence. The affections must be rectified first, or all our nature will go amiss. The heart is the rudder of the soul, and till the Lord take it in hand we steer in a false and foul way. O Lord, thou who didst once make me, be pleased to new make me, and in my most secret parts renew me. “Renew a right spirit within me.” It was there once, Lord, put it there again. The law on my heart has become like an inscription hard to read: new write it, gracious Maker. Remove the evil as I have entreated thee; but, O replace it with good, lest into my swept, empty, and garnished heart, from which the devil has gone out for awhile, seven other spirits more wicked than the first should enter and dwell. The two sentences make a complete prayer. “Create” what is not there at all; “renew” that which is there, but in a sadly feeble state.” – C.H. Spurgeon Stand in His grace, WOS |
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65 | Can we live life without sinning? | Rom 6:12 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209571 | ||
Dear Lookn, I see you are taking some heat concerning Finney and simply from what I’ve read hear on the forum, it is probably rightly so. I’m in know way familiar with Finney, so I would simply like to comment two specific things I’ve read throughout the thread. Some very good points have been brought to light concerning Finney and his theology to which, and I could have missed it, you haven’t addressed. Those being that he has denied justification by faith and original sin. If he has done that lookin, his theology can in no manner be sound as these are essential doctrines to the Christian faith. Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. The other point I would like to make: You have now stated numerous times something to the effect that God raised up Finney or rather used him to bring many people to Christ, I’m paraphrasing. However I would like to caution you not to confuse God using a person in error with God using the effects of the person in error. Simply, there is a vast difference. I think to emphasize the point with a more contemporary example, look at Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda. According to accounts, this lunatic speaks to followers in 35 different nations while claiming to be the embodiment of both Jesus and the antichrist. He’s brought many people to Christ? He brought many people falsely or wrongly or to no Christ at all. Not meaning to compare this guy with Finney, only the example in maybe a strange sort of way. But God, being the God He is, isn’t using this man, I don’t believe, to bring people to Christ, but He can surely use the cause and effects to accomplish what He desires. Romans 8:28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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66 | God Punished New Orleans with Katrina | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209364 | ||
Val, My questions were not meant to crucify you as you say. They were serious questions raised by your post. Please do not take them any other way. I’ve read many of your posts sister and you seem very well versed in Scripture and your dedication to the study of the Word is obvious, something you should be commended for. I’ll even admit, you are probably better read than I am, as I’m actively trying to learn more and more all the time. I was simply trying to drive home a point considering why disasters befall us and how important it is for us to look at them for what they are, and how it is supported with Scripture. I think the most important point to look at is that we know not when our so called number is up and we better be standing in God’s grace when that happens. For if we are not… You didn’t upset me this is just an issue I feel strongly about. Our sins have been paid for in full. Katrina, well that storm did nothing for me, directly, except to sadden me for those who suffered and lost and once again to bring to light just how thankful I’m God called me when He did. He’s perfect in everything He does, is He not? I’m not going to elaborate any further concerning this post as I think there are others who have stressed it should end for the reasons noted, as you have, and that is probably best. Please don’t think I’m out to get you Val. Far from it. You help to keep me thinking and digging into scripture and I thank you for that, I truly do. I hope that I at times do the same for you. That’s my aim after all and I know that is yours too. If I have poorly communicated my thoughts, it is me that should be apologizing to you. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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67 | God Punished New Orleans with Katrina | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209309 | ||
That’s a rather harsh judgment sister, for you to cast upon the people of that region, not necessarily supported by anything specific. Your reference to scripture is vast and raises questions if I may put just a few of them forth here? Was Katrina a punishment or a warning? If punishment and delivered by the hand of God, what were the warnings? Since you believe Katrina was God acting upon New Orleans, would you please elaborate on how you have arrived at that conclusion, specifics? To say God sent Katrina to New Orleans as a punishment for sin kind of detracts from the fact that Christ already died for our sins does is not? In your affirmation that Katrina was delivered by God, you seem very much akin to Job’s friends and their thinking. In our fallen world, the saved and secure do die terrible deaths, sometimes due to tragedies out of the blue and unexplainable. Are all catastrophes to be considered divine judgment? You closed your post with the following: “I do not have to fear because the Lord has promised that He will never leave me nor forsake me. In all circumstances I am to trust and obey Him”. That does not keep travesty from falling upon the innocent for whatever reason God determines. As was pointed out in this thread, Luke 13 1-5: demonstrates that rather well. The entire book of Job demonstrates that. I feel the same as you do sister, He will never forsake me, that doesn’t eliminate the fact that tomorrow a tornado can fall upon me and take me out. That doesn’t eliminate the fact that a deer can run in front of my vehicle while I’m driving causing me to veer from the roadside to a horrible death in a ditch somewhere. What it leaves us with is that the time to seek God’s grace is now for tomorrow may be too late. In His grace we are secure, in His Son we are secure and that eternally. That doesn’t equate to everything being peachy while we are here. Katrina happened, most recently Ike happened. I personally know many devastated by Ike. I would not dare judge them because I just don’t know. Do you? What I would do is assure them that the travesty was surely allowed by God, because He is sovereign and that is undeniable, but to claim it was a warning or judgment, well I’m just not that sure and would actually need a whole bunch of convincing to actually believe that. Romans 2:1 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We all need the grace of God. None of us are above that. For what ever reason God allows any specific tragedy, He allows it. As Christians, we’ll suffer loss, and some will suffer greatly. We suffer for Christ or simply because of what this fallen world throws upon us. But these shouldn’t be considered judgments should they? God of course uses such to strengthen us, but… I find the fact that after calamitous tragedies of this sort that there is such a mass returning to God, simply in the fact that people are searching for answers, very intriguing. But to say God has judged New Orleans, I’m not so sure about that. Just some questions and thoughts your post raised. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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68 | how did jesus teach disciples about | Matt 16:19 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208978 | ||
Dear Matt, You state: “I believe in getting things understood on one point, before I go to another point”… As do I Matt. You then state: “Keep in mind, and perspective, what this discussion is all about,” I believe I have done that. You have asked the following throughout this thread: ” I have never heard, that the Kingdom of God -- Kingdom of Heaven, is the redemptive power, could you please expound on this?” And then: “I truly want to know, teach me”… Well it would be helpful, if you are so eager to learn, to meet some of the posters halfway. How do you view the varying phrases using the word “gospel” if not all used in conjunction with the same doctrine? If you could answer that question, which is very specific and very much on topic, the other posters in the thread may be able to more aptly answer your question since the answers along with the scripture already posted do not seem to satisfy your stated desire to know. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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69 | how did jesus teach disciples about | Matt 16:19 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208969 | ||
Dear Matt, Reading over the posts on this thread, it appears obvious that you have yet to explain why exactly you see a difference in the terminology or phrasing. “The term is often used to express collectively the gospel doctrines; and 'preaching the gospel' is often used to include not only the proclaiming of the good tidings, but the teaching men how to avail themselves of the offer of salvation, the declaring of all the truths, precepts, promises, and threatenings of Christianity.” It is termed “the gospel of the grace of God” (Act_20:24), “the gospel of the kingdom” (Mat_4:23), “the gospel of Christ” (Rom_1:16), “the gospel of peace (Eph_6:15), “the glorious gospel,” “the everlasting gospel,” “the gospel of salvation” (Eph_1:13).” – Easton’s Bible Dictionary Do you see them as being different and if so, how do you see them? Maybe if you explain your position it can be better discussed? Since you admit, you have not been taught they are the same, you must have been taught they were different. What exactly have you been taught? It would be much easier to answer your questions if it were known how you view the phrases currently. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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70 | Little Scroll | Rev 10:2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208428 | ||
Dear John, Speculation my friend and around here, we seem to be pretty guarded with regard to assumptive comments. Studying the Word and what it actually states and claims is what this forum is all about. Just as with our previous conversation concerning Rev 4, we can assume most anything when the Word doesn’t directly or indirectly instruct or inform us. You assume one thing, I another, and they don’t agree neither in conclusion or source. We assume too much I think. Can I ask what your obvious interest is concerning Revelation? You’ve made 22 posts to the forum and they all concern Revelation or end times. I’m just curious as to why you are focusing on end time events. By the way, why don’t you take some time to complete your profile? It is nice to know a little more about each other as we correspond back and forth. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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71 | Where is Jesus Christ in Rev 4 | Is 11:2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208376 | ||
Hi John, I see what you are getting at now, but, symbolically, the blood red sardine stone would make more sense as to a representation of our Lord. The diamond would be the perfect Father, the sardine stone the Son, for His blood was shed for us, and the circle of he rainbow with green (nature / creation) the Holy Spirit, administering the holiness and redemption of God to all of creation. That’s how I believe Ray Stedman explained it. I can’t dismiss it although you bring up a good point as well. Again, just throwing it on the table for consideration. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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72 | Where is Jesus Christ in Rev 4 | Is 11:2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208370 | ||
Dear John, Welcome to the forum. The "voice, as of a trumpet” in Rev 1:10… Could this not be the same as “the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me” from Rev 4:1? I think there is some disagreement on that, but it seems to fit doesn’t it? I’m not sure at this point, simply putting it on the table. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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73 | Lean not to thy own understanding | Matt 13:34 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208257 | ||
Well you did more than give an example. You demonstrated as well. I'm still lost concerning the post, but that's okay, I don't need to know everything. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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74 | Lean not to thy own understanding | Matt 13:34 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208240 | ||
S-O-G, The passage who gave??? You have not attached this to any thread. And what does Matthew 22:34-40 have to do with Mark 4:11, which by the way, leads into the explanation of the parable of the sower to the disciples because: "Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?" Mark 4:33,34: 33 And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it. 34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples. Just curious as to what your point is here. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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75 | the lie | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208032 | ||
Val, In haste, my response posted was very selfish. I should have said something more to the tune, if either of us have erred, His grace has us covered. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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76 | the lie | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208022 | ||
Val, I've judged nobody. If you have taken offense to my post dear sister, you should search yourself for the reason you took offense. I mentioned no names nor did I imply an individual it was meant for. It was a generic response. My post was to Tim and the answer seemed appropriate. I'll be judged on my words and I'm fine with that. If I've erred, unintentionally for sure, God's grace has me covered. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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77 | Who can know? | Ps 19:12 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208016 | ||
Psalm 19:12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults. “Who again can understand his errors, so as always to detect a fault when it has been committed? The shades of evil are perceptible to God, but not always perceptible to us. Our eye has been so blinded and its vision so ruined by the fall, the absolute black of sin we can detect, but the shades of its darkness we are unable to discern. And yet the slightest shadow of sin is perceptible to God, and that very shade divides us from the Perfect One, and causes us to be guilty of sin. Who amongst us has that keen method of judging himself, so that he shall be able to discover the first trace of evil? "Who can understand his errors?" Surely no man will claim a wisdom so profound as this.” - C.H. Spurgeon “We are guilty of many sins which, through our carelessness and partiality to ourselves, we are not aware of; many we have been guilty of which we have forgotten; so that, when we have been ever so particular in the confession of sin, we must conclude with an et cetera - and such like; for God knows a great deal more evil of us than we do of ourselves. In many things we all offend, and who can tell how often he offends? It is well that we are under grace, and not under the law, else we were undone.” – Matthew Henry Stand in His grace, WOS |
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78 | the lie | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208013 | ||
Brother Tim, May I take a stab at answering the last question in your post? 2Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; It's much easier to rationalize scripture so it teaches that lying is acceptable. Who doesn't like to have their ears tickled and make things easier? Matthew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Apparently we can’t take Christ at His word. We must try to make it even easier. Justifying our sins to make them acceptable is the easiest way I know to accomplish that. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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79 | Did God create evil? | 3 John 1:11 | Wild Olive Shoot | 207900 | ||
Flinty, Since you ask so many questions in this response to a seven year old post, I felt obliged to answer them. 1. Has God actually foreknown all things that have taken place throughout history? Answer, Yes! 2. Does he now definitely know everything that his creatures will do in days to come? Does such a fate rule your future? Answer, Yes!! 3. Would such a one encourage people to choose what is right if he already knew that fate prevented many from doing that? Answer, God is not willing that any should parish. 2 Peter 3:9 Faith is the requirement for what you speak to at the close of your post Flinty. That faith in Christ is a gift from God. Ephesians 2:8. God properly equips those He elected. Yes He foresees faith in His elect because He calls them, Romans 8:30, 2 Timothy 1:9. The faith foreseen is given to us from Him. He owns His elect, He is full control. What is this nonsense that you post declaring God is not in control? You base that on one verse in which you have clearly used out of context. Come on Joe, surely you don’t believe you are more sovereign than our God? And since your response to this seven year old post didn’t even answer the question, let me help if I may. Did God create evi?. NO!!! The out of context scripture reference does not line up with the following Joe. So who is mistaken, you or Scripture? Romans 9:15 – 23: 15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Ecclesiastes 3:1 For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: Psalms 31:15 My times are in your hand; rescue me from the hand of my enemies and from my persecutors! “The time of life is in God's hands, to lengthen or shorten, embitter or sweeten, as he pleases, according to the counsel of his will. Our times (all events that concern us, and the timing of them) are at God's disposal; they are not in our own hands, for the way of man is not in himself, not in our friends' hands, nor in our enemies' hands, but in God's; every man's judgment proceedeth from him. David does not, in his prayers, prescribe to God, but subscribe to him. ‘Lord, my times are in thy hand, and I am well pleased that they are so; they could not be in a better hand. Thy will be done.’” – Matthew Henry Stand in His grace, WOS |
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80 | Clarification needed, Justme | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 207752 | ||
Rolff, Then in the spirit of what you posted, let us pray for all of our leaders and potential leaders and not just single one out. They can all use them. And in love, let's respect that those who were participating in this topic have agreed that this may not be the proper forum to discuss and follow their example. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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