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61 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127326 | ||
Steve, I've been spending time debating with EdB. I'm sorry I haven't gotten back to you. I have to hit the sack. It's 3:10 am, and I would hate to miss church, being commanded and all ... (just a bit of sour humor after a 14 hour debate) I will try to repond to this post properly when I am more rested. Ancient |
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62 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127338 | ||
EdB, Believe in Jesus Christ, that God raised him from the dead, and love one another as He gave us commandment. This is the doctrine of Christ. You say that it is ridiculous to suggest that love meets all of God's criteria. You are wrong, and to call the doctrine of Christ humanism is the true heresy. Again, you are wrong, and I can prove it all day and night. This last statement you are making: "If you read his comments and dwell on the points he is making you will see it is not othrodox Christianity but rather humanism," demonstrates my problem with orthodox Christianity. The message Jesus came to teach is love, and no other. Where orthodox Christianty disagrees with that, orthodoxy is defying scripture, and it is wrong. And that is that. Ancient |
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63 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127339 | ||
I keep a holy day. I choose to attend church on Sundays because everyone else attends on Sunday. However, I also keep every other day as holy, and fellowship whenever I can. Now, I don't know that I understand your question, "Do you choose the day or obey God." It sounds like you are saying to me that God has given us a commanded Holy Day, and you want to know if I'm going to obey God in keeping that specific commanded Holy Day, or if I'm going to just choose some other day as I decide in defiance to God's commanded Holy Day. If that is your question, God did not give us a specific day to worship, and your question is baiting. Ancient |
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64 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127344 | ||
Country Girl, There is no position to choose between. It is either commanded, or it is not commanded. Everyone participating in this post has, at one time or another, stated clearly that the scriptures do not directly command us to go to church. If it is not written, then it is not commanded. It is a doctrine of men. My point from the beginning has never been that we should not go to church. I have advocated several times that I am in favor of it, and I think it is a good thing. My position is: Go to church, but go because you want to go, not because someone has determined it as a command when no such written command exists. EdB's position is: Go to church because it is commanded even though it isn't written, but it doesn't matter if we keep the commandments or not anyway because it won't affect our salvation. Which said doctrine is a license to sin. Further, he slanders the doctrine of love, when the scriptures clearly, openly, and specifically say that love is the point. This thing I have demonstrated, though it was rejected, and can demonstrate time and again. I disagree with your analysis that God will deny people paradise because they didn't attend church. I'm sorry, but if they are keeping the commandments of Christ, which never included "go to church," then that's nonsense. Ancient |
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65 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127356 | ||
Country Girl, If it is a command, show it to me. If it is not written, but in fact just what you believe is "the right thing to do," then concede that it is not a command, but simply "a good thing to do." There is nothing you just said that cannot be done outside the walls of the church, and to be frank, church is the last place I'd want to be for encouragement. It is not a place to talk. It is not a place to fellowship. It is a place where you sing hymns for 30 minutes, pray 20 more, listen to a man preach to you (and often incorrectly depending on the church), then you get to give money to further a million dollar building, the pastor's Mercedes, thousand dollar suits, and to hear him beg money from those in the congregation much less fortunate than himself. All these things I have seen with my own eyes. I have watched pastors preach messages they wanted to preach, deliberately leaving out pertinent passages (like preaching on it being okay to speak in tongues in church, but leaving out the part that says not to do it in church except by two or three, and let one interpret. Otherwise keep silent). I have watched more than one church beg for money and drive home in 80k vehicles, while I! was given coupons when I was starving and homeless on Christmas at 18 years old! Most recently, a friend of mine got a letter from a church because he hadn't been attending. It was the most slanderous, judgmental, presumptuous, condemning letter I have ever seen in my life, let alone from those proclaiming Christianity. There is no church I have ever been in that hears the opinions of those "beneath" the pastor. It is an orthodox system of heirarchy that places some above others, and is more often than not rife with the hypocrisy of respecting persons. They teach laws in church, but never love. Love is the GREATEST commandment, not the least. Agape type love, which is the outward, affectionate display of Agapao, the active action, is something you either have, or do not have. [1st John 3:14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love (Agapao, actively perform the duties resulting in Agape) the brethren. He who does NOT love (Agapao, actively perform the duties resulting in Agape) abides in death.] Now, have you passed from death into life? Or do you abide in death? Agape is not something to strive for. We were given of God's spirit in order that we may know and exercise said love, and if a person does not do so, they do not know God. They abide in death. You either Agapao, or you do NOT Agapao. I DON'T need the walls of a church between 11:00 AM and 12:00 noon in order to accomplish this, OR the things you listed in your post. If this be the case, then WOE TO US Monday through Saturday. You are wrong. However a good thing it is to go to church, there is nothing done within the walls that I cannot do outside the walls, including assemble with other believers. Show me the commandment, in plain speech, backed up with at least one witness to establish the matter, and I will say you are right and continue going to church as I have been. If you cannot show such a commandment in plain speech with all the necessary parameters to know how to fulfill the command according to your standards, then acknowledge that it is not a commandment, but is, in truth, the thing YOU think is the right thing to do. Further, in the case of the second, acknowledge that what is right for you may not be right for someone else. My conscience is not judged by you, and you should not be judging people in regard to holy days or Sabbaths [Col 2:16]. This is not to say that you have, only that you should not. Lastly, acknowledge that I can do the things listed outside the church walls. I can, I have, and I actively do. Acknowledge that this thing can be done. Now, I'm sorry that I'm harsh. It is bad of me, and I acknowledge this thing. You are truly the last person in here that I want to be harsh with. I've been being attacked over this subject since this time yesterday. When it all started, if you go back to my first post and follow it, you will see that I told EdB that I did not want to discuss this. I just wanted to add some food for thought. Since then, I have been hounded and harrassed, and I finally gave in and discussed the issue. I have my opinion, which is sound according to the doctrine of love, which IS the doctrine we are to abide by. I have defended it actively in this thread for a total of sixteen hours. No one hears a word I say. I am constantly rejected without any concession for absolute value of scripture. I have been called names. I have been ridiculed. I have been insulted. All these things have added up to a rather sour disposition that is nothing of the man I usually am. I'm angry at being treated so disrespectfully, and I resent it. Again, I'm sorry that I'm harsh with you. I'm not a happy camper right now with all the flak I'm getting over a simple post. Ancient |
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66 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127358 | ||
Hey Country Girl, Let me demonstrate to you what this line of thinking has led to, and what those off the forum following my example have come to be. There are two young men, late twenties, early thirties. Their names are Darin and Richard. Darin spent his life in the church, and he never got answers to questions he asked. He was constantly challenged and ridiculed because he saw things in the scriptures that contradicted the teachings. He was not going to church anymore because they either couldn't or wouldn't answer, and he had despaired. Richard had converted a year ago, and was on the verge of turning back to Atheism because the people in the church had beat down his self esteem. He, too, got no answers, no real support ... nothing. It was a sham. The people were as fake as puppets. On my route, witnessing to anyone and everyone that will listen to me, as is my habit, I ministered to them "outside of the church walls." Both, after hearing the doctrine of love and seeing the credibility of it in scripture, started coming to my home for a Bible study. Neither of them goes to church still, though they want to if they can find a good church. And without going to church, they both, with the doctrine of love, treat people with respect, humility, kindness, patience, etc. They have both become people of good reputation because of where I led them. They have witnessed to many people, and have been able to answer questions. They have both advanced so far ahead of the average "New" Christian, you would never know that this study had only been going on for three months. There is another Bible study at the Toyota dealership nearby. I attended that one for a while. The people attending there are still sucking the teat while those I've discipled are tearing up steak. Richard, the weaker and least knowledgable of the two in the beginning, actually impressed me not long ago by showing me something I hadn't considered. The student taught the teacher, and that is the first sign of Christian maturity. Darin, about the same time, instead of bringing to me his question about an often difficult passage to interpret for most people, came to me with the answer to it, because of the doctrine of love, and presented to me the answer I would have presented to him. All because the foundational doctrine is solid and correct. At this point, I feel confident that either of them could take on a debate and win, because they are both well versed and trained in humility to accept and acknowledge if they are wrong. They both, without guidance from me except by example, have purchased interlinears, history books, concordances, bibles, software, etc. in order to do deeper studies on their own. I am proud of both of them, and neither of them did any of it inside the walls of a church building. They did it in an assembly of four or five, and are fully equipped and edified unto all good works. This is an actual happening. Church, while a good thing, is not the answer. It is AN answer. Other options work as well, and I have the living proof. What they did NOT get inside the church walls, they instead got from without. Ancient |
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67 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127381 | ||
Good evening Ed, I have taken the time to go back over your posts and reconsider what you have had to say. I have decided that your comments, however insulting time and again, are done in sincerity, not out of a desire to hurt. It is a common factor of your writing, so it is simply part of who you are, and I will try to temper myself and be understanding. I have considered my "insults" to the church as you like to view them. I have concluded that you are not understanding my comments, so to briefly restate the point: It is not the church (actual, active, truly righteous and believing body of Christ), but the teachings of the times considered "orthodox." They believed they were doing the right thing when they did what they did. My gripe is not against the church, but against false doctrines, recognized by the authority of the established church of the time periods to be "orthodox," that lead people to do such horrible things. I have come to the conclusion that you do not understand what love is. You recognize love as an emotion, and from this perspective, I understand why you cannot wrap your mind around this idea. Love, by the context of the Bible, is a behavior you exhibit, not just the emotion that motivates the behavior. Agape is the emotion. Agapao is the action that causes Agape to be exhibited, and it is recognized as a verb and action, not a feeling. I have concluded that you didn't really read my first long post expounding on love and the law. If you read it, you did not give it reasonable consideration. Since the time I presumed you read it, you have made comments blatantly contrary to scripture. I do not understand why. I honestly believed plain scripture would be enough to bring the conversation back into perspective, but I am at a loss since you choose not to acknowledge plainly written statements by Jesus, James, John, Paul, and Peter. This is not stated in sarcasm or insult. I'm truly at a loss as to what to say, because if I can't argue scripture and see progress, then I'm without debate. You have agreed that Hewbrews is not a command. I took the liberty of copying and pasting what you previously wrote for demonstration: "it was I that conceded the fact that you were right going to church as stated in Hebrews 10:25 was not a commandment as such but rather an admonishment made for our good." Because it is not a commandment, but exhortation, and because no other such commandments exist, I will conclude from our discussions the very same point I made in my first post. Going to church is not a commandment, but a thing we should do. Throughout this series of posts, people have lost sight of what my original statement was. Allow me to paste it here for you: "We are not commanded to go to church. Let every man be fully pursuaded in his own mind. The one that does not esteem one day above another, God will make him stand, and we should not judge another's servant, for no man should be your judge regarding Sabbaths, or other related holy days. Those that choose to go to church, you do a fine thing. Those that choose not to go to church, it would be better if you did, but it is not required. If you are weak, you could use the instruction. If you are strong, you could instruct others. So either way it is a good thing, and we don't want to forsake the assembling of ourselves because it is our opportunity to provoke one another to love." [Romans 14:1-10; Colossians 2:16] Again, having reread all the posts, I conclude that not only has this statement not been refuted, but it has been frequently unheld in anger by those that would criticize me, and this includes you. In the attempts to refute what I wasn't ever trying to say, my original statement has been inadvertently verified and conceded to by virtually everyone involved in this post. They, including you, have all stated plainly that scripture does not directly command it. They also, including you, have all stated plainly that they think it is something we should do. This is the heart of what my post was. It was an exhortation to go to church, and to go for the right reasons. Again, people have lost sight of what my original post was. As for love and its relationship to the law; you are not understanding just how powerful love is, what the ramifications of love are, and just how thoroughly love accomplishes all tasks related to God. All in all, our discussion on going to church has been resolved. Neither you or anyone else has refuted me, and all have conceded to my points, expressing similar ones simultaneously without realizing what my original point was. I will address the love issue in a different post, but I think we have reached our conclusion on the "go to church" conversation, unless you have something else to add that supports or defies the stated, supported, conceded statement from the beginning. Ancient |
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68 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127382 | ||
EdB, I promised in another post that I would address the love topic, and simultaneously I will address the following: "First and foremost I never said it was ridiculous to suggest that love meets all of God's criteria." Allow me to paste precisely what you said: "Ancient is saying not so, if we have love we have met all of god's criteria. I'm trying to show him and others how utterly ridiculous that is." You said it, now own it. We will otherwise drop the issue because it's not worth dwelling on. Now, on to love. Allow me, please to demonstrate to you with scripture just what love accomplishes ... and not love as in the emotion, but love as in the action. Matthew 22:36-40 Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law? And He said to him, 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets." Mark 12:30-31 AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.' The second is this, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' There is no other commandment greater than these. Luke 10:26-28 And He said to him, What is written in the Law? How does it read to you? And he answered, YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. And He said to him, "You have answered correctly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE. John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another. John 15:12 This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you. John 15:17 This I command you, that you love one another. Romans 13:8-10 Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. For this, "YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT MURDER, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT COVET," and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF." Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. 1 Corinthians 8:1 Now concerning things sacrificed to idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge makes arrogant, but love edifies. Continued ... |
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69 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127383 | ||
EdB, (Continued ...) 1 Corinthians 16:4 Let all that you do be done in love. Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love. Galatians 5:14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF." Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. (Compare these "fruits" to the description of love in 1 Corinthians 13 4-7) Ephesians 3:16-18 ... that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth ... Colossians 3:14 Beyond all these things put on love, which is the perfect bond of unity. 1 timothy 1:5 But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. James 2:8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF," you are doing well. 1 Peter 4:8 Above all, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins. 1 John 3:11 For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another ... 1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love abides in death. 1 John 3:18-20 Little children, let us not love with word or with tongue, but in deed and truth. We will know by this that we are of the truth, and will assure our heart before Him in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things. 1 John 3:23 This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. 1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 1 John 4:12 No one has seen God at any time; if we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us. 1 John 4:16 We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. 2 John 1:5 Now I ask you, lady, not as though I were writing to you a new commandment, but the one which we have had from the beginning, that we love one another. Continued ... |
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70 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127384 | ||
EdB, (Continued ...) To summarize the quoted passagese, according to love, I conclude the following results as according to plain scripture: If you love God and love your neighbor, you will live. There are no commandments greater than these, and all other laws are dependent upon the two for their very existence. Love is the commandment of Christ, and if you do that, everyone will know that we are his diciples. Love edifies, and all that we do should be done in love. In Christ, nothing means anything, except that it be by faith through love. Love is the fulfillment of the law; there is no commandment we have that is not summed up by it, and love does no harm to another. The things that define love are the fruits of the spirit, and there are no laws against such things. Through faith, and rooted and grounded in love, we can comprehend all things. Love is the perfect bond of unity, and it is the goal of the Apostles' instruction. If you are loving each other, you are fulfilling the royal law, and you do well. Love is the message we have heard from the beginning, and love covers a multitude of sins. We know that we have passed from death to life because we love one another, and it is by this sincere love that we will assure our hearts before God. If we love, we are born of God, know God ... we abide in God and God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us. This same love that nailed his own Son to the cross. If love does all these things, as according to plain scripture, then love is all you need. The root point of the "go to church" issue, and the reason for some of my questions stems from this truth. We all agree that going to church is a good thing, but if you miss church two weeks in a row, you have not sinned. You have missed church. In no way have you failed to love another by missing the assembly at the church house. If, on the other hand, you make it a commandment, then you have sinned if you miss it once, and this without harming anyone or failing to love your brothers and sisters even by accident. It is for this reason that church is not a command. It is a good thing to do. If it is a command, you are a murderer if you miss it once. Observe the words of James: James 2:10-11 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one, he has become guilty of all. For He who said, "Don not commit adultery," also said, "Do not commit murder." Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. In other words, if you make it a command, and you miss it once, you are also a murder. Now observe the words of John: 1 John 3:15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer; and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. In short, if it is a command, then you are a murderer if you miss church once, and no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. If, on the other hand, it is exhortation, if you miss you are still loving those around you, but simply missed service. Love IS the law in all respects, and it never fails. 1 John 2:10 The one who loves his brother abides in the Light and there is no cause for stumbling in him. Ancient |
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71 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127416 | ||
EdB, It is clear that you have not looked up any of the passages for context. You have not given my words any real weight. You are wrong! You are being argumentative and prideful. What you want is to win this debate at all costs, and I will no longer cast my pearls before swine. You are disregarding plain scripture. You have been taken in your own craftiness, and the Lord rebuke you. Good day to you. This conversation is at an end. Ancient |
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72 | Superior Hope | Heb 11:40 | Ancient | 127423 | ||
EdB, In this post as well you have completely disregarded my attempts to be civil with you. You rejected everything with opinion, insulted me as usual, disregarded scripture, degraded the meaning of scripture, and you called the doctrine of Christ Humanism. Well get thee behind me Satan! You speak NOT the things that are of God. Good day to you. If you reply to me anymore with these nasty retorts, I will report you to abuse for harrassing me. Ancient |
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73 | Why is the thread associated with ID# .. | 2 Pet 2:4 | Ancient | 127390 | ||
Country Girl, My first reaction when I saw this post was that the scriptures specifically state that God created evil. Upon looking at the thread, I find that Stultis also determined this and asked that someone answer to it. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. It's a ying yang. Boy girl, on off, back forward, light darkness, good evil. Now, your example is good, and I would be inclined to agree, but demonstration is secondary to plain statement. He says he did it, and that's the conclusion, regardless of any secondary reasoning. To say, "It is a basic self-evident contradiction of His Word to think that God could have created evil and is thus banned as soon as the Foundation know of its existance," is not correct. It is not a self-evident contradiction. It is the Word of God. If they "are dedicated to God's Word and Its rightful claim to being the absolute Truth," then the Word of God must be acknowledged first and foremost over doctrine. I am not personally interested in this topic, so don't misunderstand me to argue towards any goal specifically related to it. My interst is in preserving sound study based on the Bible and the words it contains as opposed to doctrines and opinions. When people stop acknowledging the authority of the stated Word in favor of their prideful opinions and doctrines, they stop learning. This topic, as opposed to being banned, should have been answered to. If refutable, it should have been soundly refuted. If not refutable, then it should have been acknowledged so that all could be edified. Where is our humility? I speak not only to everyone on the forum, but to myself as well, who recently allowed someone to provoke me to the extent that I was harsh to someone I respected on this forum. Where is our love! We should be esteeming everyone as greater than ourselves. Why is this not happening? Love is not vaunted in pride, so why is the pride so thick as to be cut with a knife? Out of hundreds of posts over the last week, I've seen the words, "you're right," once. Can you folks tell me that everyone is right, and they arguing for no good reason at all? I have personally posted to two topics with sound scripture, and I have met with indoctrination and opinions. I have met with pride, anger, insults, name-calling, disregard for plain scripture, and just plain downright rudeness. What are we doing to each other? I say, answer Stultis' question. If you people that argue him have the right of it, then let's see it, because dismissing the question stinks of pride and stubborness. People deserve to know what the Bible says on the matter. Hiding it is not edifying anyone. If he is right, then restricting it is perpetuating misconceptions instead of finding out how to understand what is written. If he is wrong, then everyone needs to see why, so they can be edified and strengthened in their own discussions on the same topic. This is my voice on the matter, and I will otherwise silence myself in regard to this topic until/unless someone chooses to ridicule, criticize, or call me names over it. I'm getting quite used to that, and it's only been a week. Ancient |
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74 | Millions led by Satan equal Goat Nations | Rev 20:8 | Ancient | 126909 | ||
Wow, Lastday! That's a great theory. You've spent a lot of time on this, it would seem. Commendable effort. I am of a different opinion, but I see you are working hard to understand the mysteries. Myself, I am of a preterist view. I reckon the seven-headed beast to the Roman Emperors, the woman to Israel, and her child as being the Christ, or some representation of Him. I see the number of the name as Nero Caesar, while also recognizing him as the king that was currently in power. There are a lot of interesting thoughts to the preterist view, and it is worth investigating. Premillenialist advocates view Preterism as impossible because of their interpretations, and Preterists view Premillenialism as impossible for the same reason. Neither side has ever been able to convincingly argue their view. The debate has raged for at least 1500 years. Whichever way you look at it, you are still doing well in that you are seeking knowledge and mystery. Just remember, fear of the end is not the way to bring people to Christ. Many fire and brimstone preachers like to scare people into being Christians, but God is love. Perfect love casts out all fear, because fear is torment. Again, good job on the work you've put into your studies, but I would humbly advise that you keep this sort of information amongst believers. Love is the best way to win new souls. This was the message of Christ, and it drew multitudes. Ancient |
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75 | Millions led by Satan equal Goat Nations | Rev 20:8 | Ancient | 126949 | ||
I'm sorry lastday, I don't want to converse with you on this. Like you, many over the years believed they had it all figured out in regard to the Revelation. I am not God to say beyond all doubt that you have not figured it out, but I have my reservations about theories suspect of speculation. There isn't a generation gone by that didn't think they were living in the end times, and this goes all the way back to the Apostles themselves who told everyone that the hour was at hand. I don't know the answer, and I don't care to speculate about it if you are fanatical. I'm sorry to offend. I just wanted to give you a little praise for your hard work. We all need a pat on the back now and then. Thank you for responding. May God keep you well. Ancient |
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76 | Millions led by Satan equal Goat Nations | Rev 20:8 | Ancient | 126993 | ||
lastday, you wrote: [Ancient, Thank you for the encouragement. Mel Miller] Any time brother. We should uphold one another, and I don't believe that this only refers to upholding in weakness, but in strength as well. Love to you, Ancient |
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