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61 | Can a toddler go to heaven? | Rom 3:23 | disciplerami | 75857 | ||
Dear Sniper, The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these, It is we adults who need to become like them. Children are innocent, pure as Adam before the first sin. And they remain that way until they reach the age when they should know right and wrong and choose the wrong. Some on this forum will tell you that Adam's seed was tainted, literally, and a sin nature was transmitted to each generation. They who say this have a problem though. Jesus was of the seed of Adam and Abraham. They invent an argument that the male seed is the only way the sinful trait is passed on, hence Jesus was spared since Joseph wasn't His biological father. But God says Jesus is of the seed of Abraham and fanciful notions can't take that away. Jesus was flesh. If sin was transmitted at conception, Jesus would have been depraved. Good day. |
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62 | Is everyone made righteous? Rom 5:18 | Rom 3:23 | disciplerami | 75922 | ||
Let it be known that Search56 has been answered. The 5:18 passage says, "the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life." Earlier Paul said that "death spread to all men." How so? Can you explain to me MrSearch in what sense has the free gift come upon all men? Do you believe life spread to all men at the moment He finished His work at Calvery? You quite clearly press Adam's sin upon all men; though vs 12 says it happened when they individually sinnned--inasmuch as all sinned-- and vs 14 says it happened even though they didn't sin in the likeness of Adam's transgression. You believe this notion of genetic sin. So are you willing to suggest universal salvation? I don't think the Search would be willing to do that! HERE IS MY ANSWER: BECAUSE JESUS ACT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ONLY RESULTS IN SALVATION FOR THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIM; IT FOLLOWS THAT CONDEMNATION ONLY COMES ON THOSE WHO FOLLOW ADAM IN SIN. "let no one say when he is tempted, 'I am being tempted by God'; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He himself does not tempt anyone. But each one is tempted whenhe is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death." -Jas.1:13-15 "Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren, Every good thing bestowed and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation, or shifting shadow." I wonder if you will understand the import of this text in light of our discussion in Romans? When does 'sin bring forth death?' You quite clearly have to blame Adam and God who allows all men to be branded with one man's unrighteous deed. Every one of those men have an excuse for their depravity, Adam made me do it. You will protest but you must blame your depravity on God, when you ought to look in the mirror. If a man is lost, if a man is tempted, if a man sinning, he cannot blame Adam and He cannot blame God. There are two primary ways of interpreting this issue, your way and mine. Mine is better because it doesn't make God an unrighteous judge. Calvin's depravity and election and perseverance places a man in a box with no choice, no free will. If he goes to hell, it's not his fault (in your view). If he goes to heaven, not his fault, but praise be to God for his Sovereign ways [I am not mocking God, I'm mocking the false way He is represented.] Keep trying Search Good day. |
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63 | disciplerami, Are we sinful by nature? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75315 | ||
I'm sorry, but that is not correct. Sin is not our nature BECAUSE OF ADAM. Sin is connected to free will. We have things we can do and things we can't do. When we do what we are commanded not to, then we sin like Adam. We don't need to inherit a 'sin nature' to sin. Just ask Adam about that. "Say Adam, how come it is that you sinned, from whom did you get that sin nature?" He would ask, what are you talking about. "I chose to sin and paid for it." Don't blame your choice to sin on Adam. Go look in the mirror. | ||||||
64 | disciplerami when did you Bcome a sinner | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75378 | ||
I became a sinner when I sinned. What version are you reading from because mine does say that. Let's compare what you've said with Scripture: The Bible says, "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me." Search56 says, "I was a sinner before birth." Hmmm...not the same thing. Good day. |
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65 | disciplerami, Is being born, iniquity? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75446 | ||
"Apparently you do not get it." I'm only trying to teach the truth, and I'm sorry to have brought out such a spirit in you. Accept my apologies. Maybe others will be more patient. You offer two choice: 'either conception was sin or I was a sinner at that time.' It is convenient that you limit the possibilities of its meaning, but not accurate. Maybe his mother was sinful, maybe the world in which he was born into was sinful. Why would I accept your interpretation when others exist? Why would I interpret David's word to be saying, "I inherited someone else's sins"? Sorry, that just doesn't fit the Gospel message. Each man has free will and the Gospel is for ALLLLLLLL. God is not a respector or persons, as He desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. How can I take God's 'desire' seriously if He doesn't make a good faith offer of salvation to all men? If people come into the world depraved and stay in that condition because God DIDN'T ELECT THEM, that is not a sincere offering at all! God gives everyone the same chance. If he opens the eyes of one man, to be fair, He must open the eyes of all men. He does so through the preaching of the message. Each man is then responsible for accepting or rejecting it. Good day. p.s. I understand I won't hear from you again on this matter, and I'm indeed sorry. |
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66 | disciplerami, Is being born, iniquity? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75574 | ||
Yes, you have to learn to sin. The little baby-and I've had five-doesn't know the difference between touching the rattle and touching the glass nick-nack. It is learning, growing. It is learning to verbalize, to walk, to explore. The things it does during this learning phase is not sin. If I spank the hand that touches the VCR, the child does not immediately learn not to touch the VCR. The learning curve dictates that the lesson will need to be reinforced once or twice before the lesson 'sinks' in. But if a parent is consistent, the child learns to do right--from a very early age. Conversely, if the parent is inconsistent, the child doesn't learn a valuable lesson. The child is seeking stimulus. The buttons look fun, the cookies taste good, etc. "I'll stick my hand in the cookie jar and eat another", it says. The child isn't sinning, it is learning: to do right or to do wrong. A parent is responsible for not watching and teaching: not the child. That is, until the child reaches an age where it SHOULD know. We call that age, the age of accountability. But as an infant and toddler and small child, it tests the waters all around it. The baby LEARNS to do wrong without correction. The first time my child said a dirty word, it did not sin. But when I corrected the child and said we don't say that kind of thing, then the child didn't do it again. The child learns to go right and the child learns to go wrong. Little brats become that way because parents don't parent, not because they are tainted by Adam's sin. They are of the same nature as Adam, but they have years to learn before they can be held to the standard that God holds adults to. Adam was a different situation in that he was full-grown when he started out. He already had adult skills. God could say to him, 'eat anything you want, except from that tree over there.' Adam, being good, without the excuse of a sin nature, chose to sin. He knew right and wrong, and he chose the wrong. That's what life is about. God knew Adam would sin. That's why God put the tree there, that's why God permitted the serpent to tempt, that's why Jesus' atoning blood was thought of before the foundation of the world. God knew man, with FREE WILL, would sin. But God provided the way of salvation too. God created man in his image, having certain capacities that made us unique from all other creatures. Man is ultimately responsible for his sin if he has free will. With reference to Psalm 51, yes, David is confessing his sin. But he is not confessing that he was born sinful. That is not possible. |
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67 | disciplerami, Are we sinful by nature? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75575 | ||
YES, SIN IS LEARNED. "I did not know sin until the law said, thou shalt not covet." I imagine that Paul learned what sin was at an age approaching manhood--12, or so. Yes, you have to learn to sin. The little baby-and I've had five-doesn't know the difference between touching the rattle and touching the glass nick-nack. It is learning, growing. It is learning to verbalize, to walk, to explore. The things it does during this learning phase is not sin. If I spank the hand that touches the VCR, the child does not immediately learn not to touch the VCR. The learning curve dictates that the lesson will need to be reinforced once or twice before the lesson 'sinks' in. But if a parent is consistent, the child learns to do right--from a very early age. Conversely, if the parent is inconsistent, the child doesn't learn a valuable lesson. The child is seeking stimulus. The buttons look fun, the cookies taste good, etc. "I'll stick my hand in the cookie jar and eat another", it says. The child isn't sinning, it is learning: to do right or to do wrong. A parent is responsible for not watching and teaching: not the child. That is, until the child reaches an age where it SHOULD know. We call that age, the age of accountability. But as an infant and toddler and small child, it tests the waters all around it. The baby LEARNS to do wrong without correction. The first time my child said a dirty word, it did not sin. But when I corrected the child and said we don't say that kind of thing, then the child didn't do it again. The child learns to go right and the child learns to go wrong. Little brats become that way because parents don't parent, not because they are tainted by Adam's sin. They are of the same nature as Adam, but they have years to learn before they can be held to the standard that God holds adults to. Adam was a different situation in that he was full-grown when he started out. He already had adult skills. God could say to him, 'eat anything you want, except from that tree over there.' Adam, being good, without the excuse of a sin nature, chose to sin. He knew right and wrong, and he chose the wrong. That's what life is about. God knew Adam would sin. That's why God put the tree there, that's why God permitted the serpent to tempt, that's why Jesus' atoning blood was thought of before the foundation of the world. God knew man, with FREE WILL, would sin. But God provided the way of salvation too. God created man in his image, having certain capacities that made us unique from all other creatures. Man is ultimately responsible for his sin if he has free will. With reference to Psalm 51, yes, David is confessing his sin. But he is not confessing that he was born sinful. That is not possible. |
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68 | Is it Sin or Me? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75680 | ||
Help me understand. You think Paul was still in the sinful, separated, depraved, hostile, unspiritual condition that he 'inherited' from Adam? Is that what you think? You think that when Paul did the very thing that he didn't want to do that the power of Christ was ineffetual in him? I don't think you can have it both ways. Either you believe that a born again person has a new spirit or you don't. I contend that the Christian and non-christian wrestles with his flesh. Following the things of the Spirit takes daily commitment. Paul had his mind on the things of the Spirit, but the flesh is weak. Romans 7 makes plenty of sense without beleiving in the doctrine of depravity. Complete sense. |
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69 | Is salvation revocable? | Rom 8:1 | disciplerami | 77590 | ||
Dear phruubel... I can imagine that many Christians do doubt, but the question is whether their doubt leads to a wholesale departure from God because that is what takes to lose salvation. Doubt can be very displeasing to God: 'the one who doubts is like the surf of the sea driven and tossed by the wind' (Jas. 1:6). The essence of doubt is a lack of faith. "Without faith it is impossible to please God." Obviously, Job didn't understand why bad things were happening to him, but he did not stop believing in God: he simply wanted to inquire of God why? Good day. Disciplerami |
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70 | Isn't Baptism neccessary for salvation?? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 72878 | ||
Greetings, In answer to your question, 'isn't baptism necessary for salvation?' The answer is yes. Peter says it is "FOR the remission of sins." The Catholic church says it is. Luther's catechism says it is. While these denominations have the purpose right, they have the mode wrong. Baptism is an immersion. Technically speaking, WE can't be sprinkled or poured, but we can be immersed. WE are commanded to be immersed. Good day. |
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71 | What about the other verses on salvation | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 73876 | ||
Greetings, The verses you reference are important verses and they should not be debated away. The way some people look at salvation passages is to pick some and ignore others. We who believe that salvation comes at the moment of baptism through faith in Christ also believe that "whoever believe in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." We who believe that to be saved, you must "arise and be baptized and wash away thy sins" see no conflict with being "saved by grace through faith." [It is therefore important that the person being baptized actually have faith in God's promises, i.e. not an infant] It is not accurate to, because passages seem to contradict, boil everything down to the lowest common denominator and consequently nullify some very important teaching on baptism: namely, the purpose of baptism. God assigns purpose. When God tells us WHY to partake of the Lord's Supper, then we have no right to make it into something else. When God gives a purpose for singing--to worship, praise, etc--, it is wrong to turn it into entertainment [what is holy is holy and not to be used for vain entertainment]. And when God assigns to baptism the purpose of uniting us with Christ into His burial and His death, no man has a right to redefine it as "an outward sign of an inward grace." Keep the faith, man. Don't give telling the truth. I appreciate you. Good day. |
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72 | Romans 10:9: is it too simple? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 73877 | ||
It's just not the whole story. Paul told the Romans a few paragraphs earlier that they were buried with Christ in baptism...so they too might walk in newness of life (Rom. 6:3-5). I have no problem with Romans 10:9,10, but it isn't everything the Bible says on salvation. Good day. |
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73 | What about the other verses on salvation | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 74356 | ||
Leaving something out? Sure, the rest of the passages on salvation. But this thread began with Romans 10:9 as the end all verse on salvation. My point was and is that to offer that one verse as the full message on salvation is 'leaving something out'; like Romans 6:3-5. Good day. |
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74 | Go to Hell after receiving Holy Spirit? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 74637 | ||
Greetings, Thanks for the very good questions. The answer to your question is 'yes.' The purpose of Baptism is clear: "Why do you delay, arise and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on his name." "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved..." In Mark 16:16, he tells us who is lost - those who don't believe the Gospel. He also tells us who is saved - those who believe and are baptized. Belief without works is dead. Good day. |
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75 | how can we know we're saved? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 77346 | ||
God is true. If he says you are saved, then you are. Mark 16:16 'believe and be baptized' is a good start. Disciplerami |
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76 | Isn't Baptism neccessary for salvation?? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 77505 | ||
Greetings, You are right on track. It's funny how hard the 'spirit' inspired people have to work to deny that plain teaching of Scripture. You know what it says on Baptism. You can teach someone correctly if you teach as Peter or Paul did: Acts 2:38; 1 Peter 3;21; Romans 6:3-5; Galatians 3;26,27; Colossians 2:12 Good day. |
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77 | Do I have to be Baptized to be saved? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 77895 | ||
Acts 2:38 says you do. Acts 2:38 Grammar Corrected It has been stated several times on this forum that the Greek construction found in Acts 2:38 wrongly leaves the impression that 'repentance' and 'baptism' are necessary for salvation. ________ Morant61 has said, "Greek pronouns and verbs must match in both person and number. While it sounds nice to say that Peter is simply going from the group to the individual, doing so seperates the command to 'be baptized' from the promise of 'forgiveness of sins'. One cannot say in Greek, "Be baptized (singular) for the forgiveness of your (plural) sins!" "Ignore the rest of the sentence for the moment. The above sentence in Greek would be impossible. The only imperative that can go with the promise of forgiveness of sins in the plural 'repent'." ________ Acts 2:38 reads: Repent ye (2nd person, plural) and be baptized (3rd singular) each one (HEKASTOS, see Thayer's notes) of ye (plural pronoun).... unto the remission of sins of ye (plural pronoun)... Morant61 says it is not proper to say, "be baptized (singular) for the forgiveness of your (plural) sins." Thayer disagrees and offers several places where this is done when HEKASTOS (each, every) is used. "HEKASTOS, when it denotes individuality, every one of many, is often added appositively to nouns and pronouns and verbs in the plural number: Jn16:32; Acts 2:8; Lk2:3; Acts3:26; 1Pt4:10; Rev5:8; Rev20:13. (Thayer, Greek-English Lexicon, 1889, p.192) Here is a perfect example in Acts 2:3, "and appeared (3rd PLURAL) to them (autois, dative PLURAL) tongues as of fire distributing themselves (nominative PLURAL) and they rested (literal, 'it rested' 3rd SINGULAR) on each one (HEKASTOS, each, every) of them (genetive PLURAL). The "them/autois" of "there appeared unto THEM" in this Greek text is PLURAL. "EACH" is from the same word translated "EVERY ONE" in Acts 2:38. Did the tongues of fire sit on exactly the same ones to whom the fiery tongues appeared? The obvious answer is, 'yes!' In Acts 2:38, the group that is commanded to 'repent ye' is not more or less than the ones who are commanded to 'be baptized individually every one of ye (plural)...for the forgiveness of the sins of ye. Other examples of this construction are seen in John 6:7; Lk 4:40 "We ask: "How many more repented than were baptized?" "Every one of you" is added appositively to "Repent ye" and they both refer to the same ones."1 Good day, Disciplerami 1www_bearvalleycofc_orgZarticlesZbaptismEssential_html _ is for a dot Z is for a forward slash |
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78 | Is hearing necessary for salvation? | Rom 10:17 | disciplerami | 76410 | ||
I'm not sure of the direction you are going with this question, but 'hearing' the Gospel is definitely necessary for salvation. There are some here who believe in a radical form of the Sovereignty of God-which is determinism-where everything, every event, and I mean everything is scripted and played out by God. I can't say for sure how such people will respond to this question, but I suppose they will have to allow that at least 'hearing' is man's part in the salvation process. If not, then to them hearing is just a legal formality as God brings his 'elect' to salvation. Me personally, I believe that the Word is powerful, 'living and active', and does not go out from God without accomplishing its purpose (Is. 55:11). "Thy word is a light unto my path, a lamp unto my feet." David saw the intrinsic power of God's Word, but many who post here see it as having no power until God personally intervenes in the person's life and regenerates first: then, the Word is understandable [according to this view]. To the rest, the unregenerated and unelected, the Word remains undiscernable. This is a good question which can help to clear up some misunderstanding we have about who is a candidate for salvation. Since 'hearing' the Gospel means more than the detection of sound, and implies a degree of understanding, it follows that a small child-that can barely tie his/her shoes and doesn't yet know the right hand from the left-can't be the intended audience of the Gospel message. Jesus said, 'unless you believe that I am he, you shall die in your sins' (Jn.8:24). Since this is true, then one of the following is true: Children are lost in Adam's sin until they reach an age that they can 'hear' and believe (Romans 10:9,10), or, children are without sin and are saved until they reach an age where they can hear and the conscience be pricked to repent; then they can truly turn from sin and follow Christ. Hearing is necessary for salvation. This is why Jesus commanded that the Gospel be preached unto all creation. He that believes and is baptized shall be saved. He that believeth not shall be condemned (Mark 16:15,16) Good day. |
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79 | Do all those in Romans 1:18-20 hear? | Rom 10:17 | disciplerami | 76507 | ||
Greetings, Paul says that see and understand and are without an excuse when they suppress the truth in unrighteousness. Right? I would conclude that they do hear. Good day |
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80 | What about the unreacheed peoples? | Rom 10:17 | disciplerami | 76591 | ||
CAN YOU HEAR ME! I think you are being so technical that you are not seeing what the verse says. Right, the word 'hear' is not in the verse, but if the attributes of God are so clearly seen and understood by all men, because "God made it evident to them", then it can be said they HEARD THE MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR! ! ! ! They are without excuse! I suppose that you don't 'hear' how emphatic I'm being, but you get the point. Double-smiley face ::)) for you. --Dismi |
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