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581 | Who is the Wretched Man? | Rom 7:24 | humbledbyhisgrace | 209745 | ||
PS. I'll take a look at the other two post you responded with as soon as I get some more time. Enjoying the dialog brother! Steve |
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582 | Who is the Wretched Man? | Rom 7:24 | humbledbyhisgrace | 209862 | ||
Brother Tim, In regards to you speaking for me, well, I guess I don't mind so much brother as long as it's accurate :-) But in this case it's not an accurate assessment so I must correct what you said. It appears all my ramblings are not properly conveying my thoughts. The contradiction is that we are to believe for example the lost person joyfully concurs with the law of God in the inner man (v22). The Scriptures say the lost person is dead in his trespasses and sins indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind , and by nature children of wrath (Ephesians 2:1, 3). This dear brother does not reflect one who joyfully concurs with the law of God in the inner man. We are not talking about a simple matter of the mind, but the nature of the man. Where I disagree with your position is where you say there "is a direct 1 to 1 correlation". Look at verse 14 again. Paul does not say that he is NOW sold into sin. He says "I am OF flesh, sold into bondage to sin". The flesh is sold into bondage to sin. This is a statement of fact and it applies to all of us. Those who are lost or nothing but sinful flesh. Only in Him do we have freedom. The freedom as I pointed out and understand it is we are justified in Him, no longer condemned. The freedom is not that the flesh is no longer sinful. This is clear from Romans 6:6-7, 6:12-13a, and Romans 8:5-8. It is only once Christ is in us the spirit lives (Romans 8:10). I have a question for you my brother. In verse 24 Paul says "Wretched man that I am!..." Tell me, considering what Scripture teaches us about the lost as I have pointed out in previous post in this thread and again above regarding Ephesians 2:1 and 2:3, where do we find the lost person considering themselves wretched? Granted, they are indeed wretched, but given Scripture, how are we to understand that one described as they are has such a view of themselves as so? That is how I understand it. It is much much more than a matter of the mind as you attributed to my position. Your brother in Christ, Steve |
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583 | Who is the Wretched Man? | Rom 7:24 | humbledbyhisgrace | 209920 | ||
Greetings Tim, On your point 1 I still find disagreement because of the passage in Philippians. This passage is actually Paul "a mature Christian", a regenerate person describing himself when he was a Pharisee. The very thing you are saying about Romans 7:14-25. Who are the "early church fathers" you are referring to? By the way, I have already mentioned I didn't even know this passage was viewed differently and my understanding doesn't come from someone else's view. I say that just to make the point that I have not adopted the view of others but rather it is my own understanding of Scripture. So, if I am wrong in my understanding it is not due to others but rather my own inabilities to understand :-( Your point 2 still does not validate the passage as you have described it (my opinion :-) When Paul or you or me or anyone was sold into the bondage of sin, we were indeed the "I", we were nothing but "fleshly". It is a statement of fact so to speak. If it were describing his current state, then the following verses would have to reflect that truth i.e. that he, the "I" is still in bondage to sin wouldn't it? Hopefully from that you can follow my way of thinking on this :-) So, if you would, give the same treatment to Romans 7:17 as you did Romans 7:14 Romans 7:17 Now then no more I that do it, but that dwelleth in me. sin By the way, what resource are you using for the literal translation you presented? Thanks brother! Your bother in Christ, Steve |
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584 | Who is the Wretched Man? | Rom 7:24 | humbledbyhisgrace | 209931 | ||
Greetings Tim, If sin were victorious as you say, then how in this verse does the "I" no longer have guilt of being the one doing the sin? What could possibly be meant by "now and no longer I" if this is talking about an unregenerate person? When you have time, please explain why/how you see this as sin being victorious. I'm not following that. By the way, I was not accusing you of saying I had gotten my view from anyone. Sorry if it came across that way. Thanks Tim! Your bother in Christ, Steve |
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585 | Who is the Wretched Man? | Rom 7:24 | humbledbyhisgrace | 209932 | ||
Greetings Cheri! Thanks for the link. I think I installed this one time before in the past but had read something on it that left me wondering of the quality of interpretation etc... Of course, I'm no judge of such because the Hebrew and Greek are foreign languages to me. Ha! :-) I do have Hebrew and Greek Interlinear resources but I was wondering what Tim was using. Thank you very much! Your brother in Christ, Steve |
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586 | Free will and predestination co-exist? | Rom 8:29 | humbledbyhisgrace | 178582 | ||
Greetings Z! You said " I am NOT supprised that you do not wish to "debate" with this kind of theology." in reference to "God brings to us the message of faith, that if we believe in our heart, and confess with our mouth, we will be saved. Just curious if you have ever read this scripture Romans 10:9? On this matter I would say Marks theology is dead on based on scripture. What say you? Your Brother in Christ, Steve |
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587 | Does God ever turn His back on us? | Rom 8:39 | humbledbyhisgrace | 215406 | ||
Greetings saucybrat! Welcome to the Study Bible Forum! I think Paul had a much different view then your instructor does. What passage of scripture did your instructor point to as proof of the teaching? See Paul's view below. Romans 8:28-39 (NASB) 8:28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 8:29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 8:30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 8:32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? 8:33 Who will bring a charge against God's elect? God is the one who justifies; 8:34 who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. 8:35 Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 8:36 Just as it is written, "FOR YOUR SAKE WE ARE BEING PUT TO DEATH ALL DAY LONG; WE WERE CONSIDERED AS SHEEP TO BE SLAUGHTERED." 8:37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Steve |
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588 | Do you believe obi1kanobi? | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 155397 | ||
Do you believe in the power of God's word? Obi, we have all sinned and come short of the Glory of God. Romans 3:23 In Jesus, we have redemption through His blood. Ephesians 1:7 Unless we repent, we will perish Luck 13:3 Christ died for our sins, He was buried, He was raised on the third day Corinthians 15:3-4 It's only through our Lord and Saviour Jesus that you can have salvation. Romans 10:9 These things I point out Obi are from the Word of God. Not mine and not based on a church doctrine. They are God's words for all to see. Obi, look to the word of God for His truth. Forsake all others and the teachings of man and look to God and His word for His truth. Be honest with yourself. If you had really been given the truth by God, why then would you approach it with deceit? I ask this out of love Obi, not to cause divisiveness between us. But I pray you can be honest with yourself and ask yourself this question. If I was doing the things of God, why did I approach it as I did? To my brothers and sisters in Christ, I believe in the power of God's word as I know you do. (Isaiah 55:11, Hebrews 4:12, Romans 10:17). I believe there have been enough witnesses to Obi's actions and enough redirection. I ask you to pray with me for Obi and that God will show mercy and speak to his/her heart and to reject this evil. (John 14:13) |
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589 | Do you believe obi1kanobi? | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 155542 | ||
Obi, How does one become saved? Who is Jesus to you? Where does Jesus fit into the plan of salvation? |
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590 | ... | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158309 | ||
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591 | Need Roman Road verses | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 164288 | ||
Greetings karuso! Try this. Romans 1:16 Romans 3:23 Romans 6:23 Romans 10:9 Romans 5:8 Keep up the good work for the glory of our Lord karuso and my He strengthen your spirit! God bless you! Matthew 9:36-38 36 Seeing the people, He felt compassion for them, because they were distressed and dispirited like sheep without a shepherd. 37 Then He said to His disciples, "The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. 38 "Therefore beseech the Lord of the harvest to send out workers into His harvest." Steve |
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592 | Need Roman Road verses | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 164292 | ||
Hello again karuso, Take a look at this link. This is another example of the Roman Road. It includes a few verses I did not mention in the first post. If you do a search on the internet you will find several different approaches to this. So far from what I have seen most are basically the same with only a few differences in the scriptures used. God bless! Steve |
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593 | Need Roman Road verses | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 164293 | ||
Sorry, forgot the link. http://www.allaboutgod.com/the-roman-road.htm |
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594 | more verses | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 164297 | ||
Hi Doc, I hear what your saying and I agree we need to keep digging and learn as much as we can regarding the word of God. Not just for ourselves but for the very reasons you mention. However, not everyone is a theologian but even the least among us can share the gospel. I know, I share it all the time! Thankfully, the more learned among us was graceful enough to help the not so learned to share the gospel message. My guess is that these types of things are popular because most Christians are not bible scholars but many of them do have a passion to share the gospel. Guess how many verses from the bible was shared with me the day I was saved??? One! There is power in the word Brother! I know you know that! ;-) PS. I've never used the "Roman Road" my self but I have used some of the verses. There good ones! God Bless! Steve |
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595 | secular vs. godly | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 169834 | ||
As an Independent Baptist? Does this mean you think there are certain scriptures for Independent Baptist? Romans 6:23, John 14:6, 1 Corinthians 15:3-4, Romans 10:9-10 and on and on... Here's some more Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, Romans 5:8, Romans 10:9-10, and Romans 5:1-6 Brother there are so many verses one can share that for a believer speaks loud and clear the message of Christ. My guess is you already know them yourself. What are the best? Well, in my opinion they are all God's words so they are all worth sharing with her. But keep in mind these verses which are for you - Hebrews 4:12, Isaiah 55:11, Romans 10:17 PS. These are not offered as an Independent Baptist but as a Christian Brother! When you are talking about the salvation of another your not going to find it in a denomination. The word of God is clear on this, salvation comes through Christ alone! May God bless you and your daughter, Steve |
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596 | when a I saved and when baptised | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 189388 | ||
Greetings revjackl! Welcome to the Study Bible Forum! I was reading your post and brother lionheart's response to you. I have to admit, I'm a bit like brother lionheart regarding your post. Perhaps it is just the way you worded it that has us confused on your teaching. I don't mean to speak for brother lionheart but I see his point and had some of the same thoughts when I read your post. Would you mind expounding a bit on the last part of your post? Let me say this so perhaps you can understand my confusion regarding your post. When you say " When you have truly accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Savior you will know and as yo go through witnessing that you have accepted him in your heart, that assurance of being saved by grace through faith is anchored inside of you. When this happens you will want to be baptized as a sign the you know you are forgiven of your sins and adopted into the royal family of christian believers. " Can we point to scripture that teaches this? Why do we teach this and fail to point out to the new converts that baptism was instituted by God Himself John 1:33 . Christ confirmed this when speaking to the chief priests and elders of the Jews Matthew 21:25 . And lets not forget, it is a commandment of our Lord that His disciples be baptized Matthew 28:19 . I completely agree with scripture and the teaching found in Ephesians 2:8-10 . I am in no way pushing salvation by works. But I firmly believe as a child of God we are expected to be obedient and comply with the commandments of God as He has commanded them. We should not get baptized as a sign that we know we are forgiven of our sins etc... but as an act of obedience to the commandment of our Lord. It may publicly symbolize to the church what has taken place in our hearts but I would argue the important thing is that in our hearts we should be motivated to please God through obedience to His command! We should instruct the new converts that their obligation is to God first and foremost and in what ever God has commanded of His people, we are required to be obedient. I fear we fail them and dishonor God when we lead them to believe compliance of His commandments is of their own choosing or in this case it is a matter of a sign to the individual and/or church what has taken place. It has nothing at all to do with legalism or salvation by works etc... but everything to do with humbling ourselves in submission to God in obedience to Him! Steve H. |
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597 | when a I saved and when baptised | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 189505 | ||
AO, I fear you misunderstand me! The point of my post was to point out the lack of teaching baptism is a commandment to us by God and we should be obedient to His commandments. Not that it was required for salvation. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (NASB) 15:1 Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 15:2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. 15:3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 15:4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures Here we have the gospel (v 3-4) which Paul clearly teaches "by which also you are saved" (v 2). Pay close attention that being baptized is not mentioned here! Romans 10:9-10 (NASB) 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. Again, note there is no mention of baptism! Take a look at Acts 10:44-48 Acts 10:44-48 (NASB) 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message. 45 All the circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. Then Peter answered, 47 "Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?" 48 And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days. Romans 8:9 says that if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. Romans 8:9 (NASB) 9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. Now, go back and note in Acts 10:44-46 that the Gentiles had received the Holy Spirit. This was before they were baptized! Ephesians 2:8-10 (NASB) 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. Clearly, scripture teaches salvation is a gift of God and not a result of works! This subject has been discussed in detail on this forum but since you took the “liberty to expand slightly” as you said, I want to clarify for you and anyone else reading along that I agree with scripture and that salvation is by grace through faith and not of anything we can do (i.e. works)! I do not believe that the scriptures teach you must be baptized to be saved. Steve |
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598 | when a I saved and when baptised | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 189535 | ||
AO, It is an interesting doctrine indeed and when scripture is so clear on the matter I struggle to understand why some still push salvation by works. Perhaps a good study on the grace of God and the corrupted nature of mankind would help. I would like to ask regarding your statement " It is an interesting doctrine that people are called on to believe and confess God; both actions requiring human effort; yet water baptism is beyond the pale!" Considering scripture such as these 1 Corinthians 2:14 (NASB) But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. And Romans 8:5-8 (NASB) 8:5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 8:6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 8:7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8:8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. What human effort can we claim? Can believers claim it is by their effort that they have believed and confessed Christ as Lord? 1 Corinthians 12:3 (NASB) Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus is accursed"; and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit. It is an interesting doctrine to me that mankind still believes he saves himself and that he is capable of such great works! Especially in light of scripture and simply taking a look around the world at the fruit of sinful mans labors! Ephesians 2:4-9 (NASB) 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 2:5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 2:6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 2:7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. Steve |
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599 | when a I saved and when baptised | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 189607 | ||
AO, This is indicative of one arguing a belief rooted in the teaching of man and not scripture! I will leave the unfounded accusation for you to deal with. That's between you and God and not much I can do there to help you with. I will reference once again a passage of scripture for you and others to compare your opening teachings with scripture (Ephesians 2:8-9). You said "The requirement of baptism for salvation has been contested since the later half of the first century, but Scripture is indeed clear on its necessity." I agree. The problem is not that it's required, but when it is said it's required for salvation! Go back and read my first post in this thread. You will see I agree 100 percent that it is required. Required because it is a commandment from God. But it is not required for salvation! Salvation is a gift given to you before you are baptized and I have pointed out to you scripture that clearly teaches this! If Acts 2:38 is interpreted as you interpret it, then we must reject other scripture. For example, what do you do with the following scriptures if your interpretation of Acts 2:38 is correct (John 3:16, Romans 4:1-17, Romans 11:6, Galatians 3:8-9, Ephesians 2:8-9, etc...)? You say in reference to Acts 2:38 "They chose to repent and be baptized in order to receive the Holy Spirit." Yes they did! But does this mean what you claim it means? I say no and again, I offer from scripture the argument that you are teaching this scripture wrong. Acts 10:44-48 (NASB) 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message. 45 All the circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. Then Peter answered, 47 "Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?" 48 And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days. Romans 8:9 says that if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. Romans 8:9 (NASB) 9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. Now, go back and note in Acts 10:44-46 that the Gentiles had received the Holy Spirit. This was before they were baptized! In reference to Acts 8:36 you say " He excitedly chose to be baptized as soon as it was physically possible." Agreed! I excitedly chose to be baptized as soon as I could also after I was saved. But please tell me how this verse validates your teaching? In reference to Acts 16:32-34 you say " They were immediately baptized. Why not wait until the rest of their friends and family could witness the event? Because they were acting on their faith that the words presented to them were the command of God." Again, does this prove your claim one must be baptized to be saved? Of course not, interesting how you left out Acts 16:31 which clearly says, Acts 16:31 (NASB) They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." In reference to John 14:15 - I'm assuming your are trying to use this verse to argue salvation requires baptism??? Please explain! In reference to what you say about 1 Peter 3:21 Brother, I truly do not mean to be argumentative and I hope it is understood between you and I that we are brothers in Christ. But it is of utmost importance that we exalt the truth found in God's word. In context of this scripture and in context of the whole counsel of God's word this is a sad interpretation of this passage. I urge you to stand on the teaching found in scripture and not that taught to you by mankind! For your edification, an easy way to discern if you are fallowing the teachings of man is to gauge it by how far from scripture you are! Just my opinion! If it were true as you teach it " Baptism now saves you by being the final step to the grace offered through the blood of Christ. God could not make it any clearer, “Baptism now saves you” Then tell me what we do with a multitude of scripture that your teaching clearly contradicts? You are building a doctrine on one portion of a single scripture. How is it you can miss in the very same verse what is said ("not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience through the resurrection of Jesus Christ ..." How do you answer the scriptures I have already pointed out to you that clearly teach us the Gentiles in Acts 44-48 had received the Holy Spirit before they had been baptized? Your brother in Christ, Steve |
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600 | when a I saved and when baptised | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 189620 | ||
Brad, Yes! 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is a profound passage! Amen! And those that fallow as well as they testify to the eye witnesses of our risen Saviour!!! And what do you make of this? Could we say Paul didn't make a practice of baptizing? 1 Corinthians 1:14-17 (NASB) 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 1:15 so that no one would say you were baptized in my name. 1:16 Now I did baptize also the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized any other. 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void. And I agree with you regarding mankind! It is also an interesting thing to study what scripture teaches us about our corrupted nature and look at what we see from mankind, including ourselves of course! Just my opinion, but understanding the grace of God and our corrupted nature and seeing how mankind struggles so with a nature drawn to sin goes a long way in learning to hate sin. At least it does for me! Steve |
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