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521 | bible reference to support remarrying | NT general Archive 1 | New Creature | 49991 | ||
you should have sent this to kkid instead of me, seeing how your response is mainly to kkid. |
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522 | trapped in marriage | Bible general Archive 1 | New Creature | 49844 | ||
Fornication is Bibical grounds for divorce, however the scripture I provided seems to indicate that the once divorced, any one marrying the one divorced commits adultery, so re-marriage would then be out of the question, except in the cause of the death of the spouse Matt 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. Matt 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. 1Co 7:10 ¶ And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband: 11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife. 1Co 7:39 ¶ The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord. |
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523 | Asking for gifts of the Spirit? | 1 Corinthians | New Creature | 49516 | ||
Good question. Lets see what Scripture says: 1 Cor. 14:4 He that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue edifieth himself 1 Cor. 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not 1 Cor. 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in [those that are] unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? 24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or [one] unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: 25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on [his] face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth. From this text you will see that it is prophesy that the unbeliever is convinced or convicted, and the secrets of his heart are made manifest, and falling down he will worship God. So it is prophesy not tongues that convinces the one who believes not. It is prophesy not tongues that cause the one who believes not, to fall down on his face and worship God. At least thats what 1 Cor. 14:24:25 says. 1 Cor. 14:23 says if the unbeliever comes and hears you speaking with tongues he will say you are mad or crazy, and possibly nuts. Tongues is more for self edification, than for edification of the body of Christ (see 1 Cor. 14:4) which I posted Paul also said that he would rather speak five words with his understanding that by his voice he might teach others, rather than 10,000 words in an unknown tongue (see 1 Cor. 14:19) But we do read that tongues are for a sign, to them that believe not (1 Cor. 14:22) notice it says for a sign, NOT for CONVICTING the unbelievers. below is Strongs definition of "a sign" 4592 semeion (say-mi'-on) from a presumed derivative of the base of 4591; TDNT - 7:200,1015; n n AV - sign 50, miracle 23, wonder 3, token 1; 77 1) a sign, mark, token 1a) that by which a person or a thing is distinguished from others and is known 1b) a sign, prodigy, portent, i.e. an unusual occurrence, transcending the common course of nature 1b1) of signs portending remarkable events soon to happen 1b2) of miracles and wonders by which God authenticates the men sent by him, or by which men prove that the cause they are pleading is God's However the word "convinced" elegchosin in the Greek in 1 Cor. 14:24 means conviction So it is prophesy not tongues that convicts according to the Scripture I provided. Study those verses and I hope they help |
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524 | Asking for gifts of the Spirit? | 1 Corinthians | New Creature | 49515 | ||
The word "covet" which I mentioned from the text I provided in my previous response does mean desire. Same thought different wording. | ||||||
525 | when te sons of God came | Gen 6:4 | New Creature | 48648 | ||
I don't think you understood what I said. First of all angels don't marry or pro-create. Mt 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. When Gen. 4:6 speaks of the "sons of God" it isn't referring to angels. It is merely a reference to humans who are believers in the Lord |
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526 | when do I spake in tounges | Acts | New Creature | 48639 | ||
Paul said: 1 Cor. 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.(The more excellent way is love - 1 Cor. 13) Paul told us to "covet earnestly the best gifts" So even Paul knew that some of the spiritual gifts were to be more useful and more desirable than gifts like tongues. Then Paul said: 1 Cor. 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. Paul said to covet to prophesy. I don't think He said to covet tongues. However Paul concluded by saying "forbid not to speak with tongues" Covet and fobid not are key here, don't you agree? |
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527 | Is OT still applicable for NT believers | Mark 16:18 | New Creature | 46567 | ||
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528 | Individualistic Bible reading unbiblical | Eph 4:11 | New Creature | 46095 | ||
Joe Yes we are a body not lone-rangers, we are called to community. It's just that in these days there are many "wolves in sheeps clothing" and as christians, we need to beware and be discerning. Many believers who are in groups, sects, congregations, religious bodies, have been found to be collectively deceived together. So merely belonging to a denomination, or a community of believers does not necessarily assure us of not being in error. Many individuals as well as bodies of believers are sincere in what they individually and corperately believe, but are yet sincerely wrong. Thats why the word of God, and the Holy Spirit are the only reliable safe-guards against individual, and corperate error and deception. The number of false teachers is on the rise in our times. "O God, the enemy has entered into Thy pastures and the sheep are torn and scattered. And false shepherds abound who deny the danger and laugh at the perils which surround Thy flock. The sheep are deceived by these hirelings and follow them with touching loyalty while the wolf close in to kill and destroy I beseech Thee, give me sharp eyes to detect the presence of the enemy; give me understanding to see and courage to report what I see faithfully. Save me from the curse of compromise." (Aiden Wilson Tozer) Even today many who desire Ecumenicalism, have compromised the truth in order to strive for unity. But I'd rather be divided by truth, than united by error. Blessing to you |
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529 | Individualistic Bible reading unbiblical | Eph 4:11 | New Creature | 46034 | ||
Amen the word of God is our final authority, and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth. And the scriptural promise for those who have faith is: John 16:13 Howbeit when he, THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, is come, HE WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: AND HE WILL SHOW YOU THINGS TO COME. (concerning "show us things to come," I think we are able and will be able to discern the times, not any new revelation) The hidden things are sealed until the time of the end, and will become clearer as that day approaches to those who are wise with spiritual discernment. (Dan. 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words [are] closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.) Blessing to you |
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530 | Individualistic Bible reading unbiblical | Eph 4:11 | New Creature | 45993 | ||
Not only does the Lord give the church gifted teachers, but more importantly the Lord gave us two safe-guards to prevent us from being deceived. He gave us the annointing of the Holy Spirit to discern truth from error, and He gave us the written word. The Holy Spirit is the believers most trustworthy guide through the Bible. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth. When some false teaching is presented, the Holy Spirit reveals this to the Bereans. We need to like the Bereans, search the scriptures daily to see what is being taught is so or not. | ||||||
531 | Is OT still applicable for NT believers | Mark 16:18 | New Creature | 45929 | ||
Markarios; Thanks for a great answer. Besides the verse you mentioned, which was: Romans 15:4 "For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope." [ESV] Here is another NT verse that says pretty much what the verse you sent me says: Here it is: 1 Cor. 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them (REFERRING TO THE ISRAELITES WHO WERE WANDERING IN THE WILDERNESS) for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. Thanks again Blessing to you also |
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532 | Is OT still applicable for NT believers | Matt 5:18 | New Creature | 45825 | ||
Thanks Joe So would it be absolutely accurate in your opinion, to at the same time say, that 35.768 percent of the OT does not apply to NT Christians |
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533 | Is OT still applicable for NT believers | Mark 16:18 | New Creature | 45822 | ||
Searcher So is it your contention that the verses I gave as an example do not apply to NT Christians? |
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534 | Can you give the places? | Bible general Archive 1 | New Creature | 45496 | ||
Thats good. I hope you find the answers your looking for | ||||||
535 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | New Creature | 45205 | ||
you are correct when you say: "that the meaning of the word should be determined by, firstly, its immediate context and, secondly, in light of God’s revelation as a whole" And in every instance in John 3:16-21 each time the word "world" is mentioned refers to all of fallen humanity. In verse 16 God so loved some? No, it doesn't say that. John could have used the word "some" or "the elect" if he had chosen to, since "elect" was a word that was in use at the time of his writting. It says God so loved the world., and further on in the same verse it says: "whosoever" there is no justification for "world" and "whoever" to mean some. There is no limiting words here. John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (might be saved, not will be. Only those who by faith appropriate by faith the free gift of eternal life will receive it. Thats why it's called a gift. Again the offer of salvation is extended to "all" (2 Cor. 5:15 he (Jesus) died for all,) Why didn't Paul qualify that by saying all the elect? 1 Tim. 1:15 This [is] a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. (Are the unsaved sinners? Are they too in need of salvation?) 1 Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. belief is the condition for salvation, those who are condemned are so only because they have not believed. It does not say they could not believe, but only that they have not. John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. Light is come into the world - John 1:9 [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. (Who does the light not come to? It says the true Light, lighteth EVERY MAN that cometh into the world. Who does EVERY MAN THAT COMETH INTO THE WORLD EXCLUDE?. Why does it not say some men? And again - 1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world. In order for you to say that this verse only refers to the church, as many do because of the demands of their theology, is to add to the text. It is better to read the verse without adding your words to it. (eisegesis) The epistle of 1 John is a family letter to the church. In 1 John 2:2 He is telling the believers, Jesus is the propitiation for our (us who already believe,) but not only for our (the believers) sins. But also for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD. Salvation made available to all, but it is only made actual for those who receive it. by faith. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: I'm sorry but I can't agree with your intrepretaion, which seems to add the words "some" and "church" where the words "all' and "world" in the proper context are really meant to mean all of fallen humanity. And just to be sure once again that I am not misunderstood. There is no such thing as universal salvation, except in the extent of it's offer. That does not mean God failed in His mission, it only means, men refuse to receive what Christ offers them. The fault lies with condemned men. |
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536 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | New Creature | 45125 | ||
You stated: "In verse 17 John says that the Son was sent not to condemn the world but that the world through Him might be saved. Clearly then if ‘world’ means ‘every human being’ then the passage teaches universal salvation since the Son was sent to save the ‘world’ or ‘every human being’. If you deny universal salvation, then you have to admit the Son has failed in his mission to save "the ‘world’ or ‘every human being’ since according to the Son Himself not all human being are going to be saved. Which of the two do you prefer, New Creature? The universal salvation or the failed mission of the Son? " Concerning John 3:16-18 What is meant by the word "world" is clarified in verse 18 "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead because their deeds were evil. This is clearly the whole fallen world. Scripture says "When he the Holy Spirit comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment. (John 16:8) Certain denominations theology demands that "world" and "all" don't really mean all. It is painful to watch the logic of many denominations, respond by claiming the Bible uses the words "world" and "all" in a restricted limited sense. If all does not mean all fallen human beings, then what does it mean in Romans 3:23 when it says: All have sinned. Using the logic that all doesn't mean all would then mean that in this verse the word "all" means that only all the elect have sinned, which I am sure you will disagree with. Also: How do you get around this verse? 1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and NOT FOR OURS ONLY, BUT ALSO FOR [the sins of] the whole world. Finally, I don't believe that salvation is universal. It is only universal in it's offer, but is only made actual for those who by faith receive it. Neither do I believe than God ever fails or failed in any mission. It is man that fails and is held accountable for his choice which God allows him to make. |
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537 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | New Creature | 45119 | ||
You asked "if God is omnipotent and ‘all-loving’ (meaning willing to save all) then why all are not saved?" Answer - God truly is omnipotent, and all loving see John 3:16. And 2 Pet. 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. The LORD's will is that none perish, and those who won't repent will eventually perish. But God doesn't coerce any one to repent, (Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:) You also asked: "If you say because some resist God’s will, I ask, is this resisting more powerful than God’s will?" God has willed,that once He enlightens a person,( see John 1:9) that person has then been enabled by God,to make a decision to either receive Christ or to not receive Christ. God's Love is not forced, but God persuades people with sufficient evidence, and conviction of their sins, at which point we either refuse or accept. If we refuse it is only because God permitted one to do so, not because anyone's will is more powerful than God's will. He permits us to choose, that way on judgement day, He can justly damn those who refused Him. Man is held accountable for their actions and decisions. God will not damn someone for their inability to hear and respond. But all are without excuse. If man is unable to respond, then will God damn them for their inability? I don't believe thats the way it is. Many do. I don't Rom. 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: John 1:12 But as many as RECEIVED him, to them gave he power TO BECOME the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: |
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538 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | New Creature | 45112 | ||
Thanks Joe. Hopefully we will be able to further discuss this as well as other topics in the near future. At the same time I am sure we will not agree on everything. But at least we each get to post our thoughts on the different topics with a gentle spirit. Thanks again Joe | ||||||
539 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | New Creature | 44997 | ||
If you have said all you will say on this topic, thats fine with me. But I too have one last comment and will not speak further about this at this time. First: Thank you for correcting me about the author of Hebrews, I knew that, but due to my lack of time at the moment I composed that reply, I inserted Paul's name unitentionally. Secondly You stated: "If the Lord has not convinced you that you can have eternal security, through what he has done, then far be it of me to try and convince you" I never said that I didn't have eternal security. I do (present tense) have security. Eternal security from my understanding can only be taken in the present tense. "he that believeth, hath (present tense) eternal life. If you want unconditional eternal security, you can have it. It is in Christ, on a day by day, moment by moment basis. security for the branches depends entirely upon their abiding (remaining connected) with the vine. see John 15 I still believe faith is not a stopping point but merely the starting gate. Lastly: I have many times heard of the "lost rewards, but not salvation" teachings. But I cannot accept that postion from my understanding of scripture. There is more at stake that just rewards Thats why Paul wrote: Rom. 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, [take heed] lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in [his] goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. Nevetheless it's been nice talking with you. |
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540 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | New Creature | 44928 | ||
What I'm saying is my view of scripture, however perfect or imperfect remains my view. I do not claim to have a perfect answer suitable for everyone. I merely share my views with you and others seriously considering and weighing comments and replys from others like yourself. At this moment we don't agree on all points we discuss, but Thank God we can freely with a gentle spirit encourage each other in our walk with Him. Finally, concerning whether God is impartial, I still don't believe He is. God is not a respecter of people. I believe there is more to God's choosing certain people that what we currently know. think, or realize. So I don't think I will have any answer that can satisfy anyone. But thank you for helping me try to think through this. I would like to hear more of what you say on this topic as well |
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