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441 | What in the world!!? | Bible general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 91094 | ||
Thanks anyway, Fran. This forum software is narrow and tricky to navigate in. I've enjoyed better times of it on other forums. But these conversations make hanging in, worth it all. Ken |
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442 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91093 | ||
"Sure. Now, you tell me what you believe the young Jesus meant by it." The "young Jesus" was the "young Jesus". I'm not Him, neither are you...John, I believe it's John. Having made those distinctions we must remember that Jesus already possessed - the- divine nature. He knew what His earthly ministry was to accomplish. i.e., "for this reason was I born". We, on this side of the cross also possess that nature by virtue of the new birth. In that new birth experience SHOULD come the knowledge of the Father's business regarding our relationship to Him and His will for our life. My ambition must be to be about my Father's business....So should yours. His will for our lives is for us to become a son unto Him....just like Jesus, the boy. Jesus accomplished His task by protecting His divine nature to become the new Son of God. We accomplish our task by overcoming our old 'self' nature with the new one God gives us because of Jesus Christ that we become "Son's of God", no longer "boy's", but joint heirs with Christ to rule reign with Him.. You do know what a joint heir is I hope? Make sense? |
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443 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91076 | ||
"It sounds like you are talking about discipleship or Christian maturity. Is that correct?" And that sounds like you think they are the same. I find Christian maturity CAN BE nothing more than a lot of 'religious head knowledge' while I consider dicipleship to be more of a love affair with the Father. The former requires revelational truth as a result of initimacy with the Father. Make those distinctions and we're on the same page because I know too many self-proclaimed "mature" Christians who resent it when the name Jesus is mentioned and walk away from the conversation. "If so, I would say that both are necessary. We need to be 'becoming Christlike' and knocking on those doors! ;-)" Jesus never knocked on doors. He spoke from His life and was never without an audience. |
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444 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91054 | ||
Luk 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? ________________________________ What do suppose Jesus meant by "my Father's business"? __________________________ Isn't this something we should be saying when asked of others? |
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445 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91053 | ||
Hi Tim! and thanks for the greeting... a pleasant change. I really can't put it in a short statement but I can assure you that what I believe WON"T do injury to anyones faith venture in Christ. What I know is that we fall short, way short, of coming into what God has purposed for those who diligently seek His kingdom and put into practice a love for Him He can respond to. i.e., the Great Commandment and seek first His kingdom..." The nominal Christian doesn't know much about that sort of thing today while clinging to promises of God that have conditions placed upon them. Am I saved by grace?.....YES, without a doubt. Now I have a responsibilty and it ain't to go beating on doors telling them about Jesus who I know very little about but to become one God can trust with Himself as He could, Jesus. Make sense? |
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446 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91050 | ||
“Why, at he age of 30 and not 13 or 3 is not revealed in Scripture. But we do know that He cames to save His people from their sins.” **"However, water baptism does carry a much deeper meaning than what we are commonly taught to accept, but not for salvation and Jn3.3,5 has nothing to do with salvation." ”John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God”. ”I do not believe that "born of water" refers to believer's baptism, for that would be require a work being added to faith in order for one to be saved.” OK, I said that. But then if you are saved you should want to be, right? A sign of communion or belonging, maybe? How about allegiance? Will that work? ”Perseverance for a true believer is not a requirement for salvation. We are saved by grace alone. Rather, perseverance is a fruit produced in the believer by the Holy Spirit; it is an evidence of God working in us. We are His workmanship and His work does not fail to meet His expectations.” Don’t be so sure here, John. I say it is a matter of responsibility that we are to purify our souls per 1 Peter1.22 “Seeing YOU have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently”…….. He is talking to disciples here, John and not to “just saved” people. ”It causes me real grief when I see so many, who profess Christ, busily attempting to work their way into the kingdom. The fact is that when the cross work of Christ was completed, ALL the work was over.” You mean the way was now open for man, once saved, to enter. Remember, Jesus said “IF” any man will…take up his cross and follow me” How do the unsaved take up a cross they haven’t received, the life and death of Jesus? Then you must ask what is this cross except it be an extension of the earthly life of Jesus given me to prove myself as Jesus did That Father can say to me well done good and faithful servant-son-.. Sorry, John, salvation is not the issue. Sonship is. “The work we do is simply God working in us to accomplish His good pleasure. Salvation's work had been done on our behalf long before we were born. To God be the Glory!” That’s nice and understood by me however the only faith that pleases the Father is the Faith OF the Jesus Christ and that MUST reside in me, revealed to be the very mind of God. If that is a ‘works’ issue to you so be it. Revisit 1 Peter 1.22…Rom. 8.2. If you can grasp this you’ll enter a more vibrant relationship with Father and the Bible will become a new one. |
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447 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91044 | ||
"Is your theology concerning kingdom of God unique to you, or is it taught in your denomination?" No. It is taught in the Bible, It is mentioned 33 times in the NT as it's theme, and greatly overlooked by puritanical Calvinists. |
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448 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91043 | ||
"During the first 30 years Jesus was growing and learning from the Father. In the fullness of time and according to the eternal purpose of God He began His mission; He lived in perfect obedience to the commandments so that His righteousness might be imputed to those whom the Father sent to Him." Whew!...scripture for that, please make it relate to that and nothing after. |
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449 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91018 | ||
Try this as a paraphase: Hearing Nicodemos' question asking about eternal life Jesus gives it 'small' attention and goes to the heart of why He really came to Earth. i.e, to usher in the kingdom of God; to unlock the door to it. He knew that the understanding of redemption would be forthcoming as a necessity for understanding His Fathers Kingdom. Man could not affect the reality of what the cross did. i.e,. redeem them, but they can decide to what degree the effect of the outcome of the cross can have on their lives..."IF any man desires to be in Me....he will follow, etc., then I will respond to that because of My disposition in him."-new nature by the new birth exp. Keep in mind, Hank, the effect of the cross wasn't imediately known as far as what happens imediately after you die. When Nic asked his question he wasn't supposing any need for being perfected in himself, a kingdom issue, but rather he wanted to know what provision was Jesus suggesting He had that he, Nic, didn't know about that he might be comforted in the matter. The cross wasn't being discussed here. After all, here is a man who knew the law and was one of the few who supposed Jesus for who He said He was. So we can rightly state that Nic's eternal security was ALREADY assured because of his 'believing' Jesus. Keep in mind the foreknowledge of God here. All that was needed was for the cross to happen. With that Jesus moves on to His prime purpose for coming and the explaining the necessity for the new birth experience in a BELIEVER'S life. Many people will be in heaven who have never experienced it. Question: Will they be Jointheirs? I don't know. I don't think so. Look up what jointheirship is. It's different than just being an heir. Paul tell us to "work it out". Oswald Chambers say's that in the process of working it out, you 'become'. That is God's will for our lives, as believers. Jn,7.17 If any man will do *process of becoming* his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. Jn 14.26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. |
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450 | What in the world!!? | Bible general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 90991 | ||
You did that. I was refering to this forum's software. I can't seen to bring the main "tree" of questions up in any way I can remember. It's crazy. | ||||||
451 | Truthfinder: Is Jesus God? | John 1:1 | Ken hepting | 90989 | ||
That's an intense question, Hank, that I believe requires an intense answer. But then I'm not the "truth finder"....Ken | ||||||
452 | Truthfinder: Is Jesus God? | John 1:1 | Ken hepting | 90988 | ||
That's an intense question, Hank, that I believe requires an intense answer. But then I'm not the "truth finder"....Ken | ||||||
453 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 90987 | ||
Hank, I see what you're saying and I agree with your observations concerning the woman. I hope you'll read what I just posted and try to draw something from that that will help. I like your question-s and If I need to do more typing, no problem, Ken | ||||||
454 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 90986 | ||
If Salvation was the main issue for God bringing Jesus into this world why did he, after 30 yrs., goe through 3 1/2 more just to redeem man? Think about it before you start your criticisms. He could have gone straight to the cross. If you say 'well He had to accomplish a few healing tasks to prove who He was' I ask why..if redemption was the main issue? "Historic christian orthodoxy rejects the idea that baptism (or any work) is necessary for salvation. We are saved by grace alone, through faith alone is Basic Bible 101." And I agree with Historic Christian orthodoxy 101 in rejecting the need of 'water' baptism as necessary for salvation but what does that have to do with need for being 'born again' to satisfy Jn 3.3,5? However, water baptism does carry a much deeper meaning than what we are commonly taught to accept, but not for salvation and Jn3.3,5 has nothing to do with salvation. "Those who perservere to the end do so because they have been born again. They are new creatures created "in Christ". Really? "In Christ"? Then why the need to perservere? Is that what Jesus did...perservere? 'New creatures' carries with it a divine nature that possesses a heavenly vision not unlike what Jesus experienced. It's part of the Born Again experience that doesn't demand discipline of that sort though perservering in Christian life does have everything to do with overcoming self to become a son pleasing to the Father..Read Rev. 1-3. "Your casting of Mk 5:25 as a verse dealing with salvation is mistaken. Clearly it is a verse dealing with healing. The woman believed that Jesus had miraculous healing power, but so did many others who followed Him. The problem was that they were not prepared to accept that He was God incarnate." I said it "typifies" how salvation is accomplished. Try to follow: "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God". This was accomplished in her which took her to Jesus. He healed her typifying salvation by making her physically whole. We do that when we come to Jesus for our salvation, right? Now who faith are to live by if we CHOOSE to follow Him? His or ours? If His then the Born again experience is opened up to us. If ours, we stay in "self-mode", alienated from the kingdom of God. I trust I've been more clear. |
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455 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 90959 | ||
Your answer is "NO" Absolutely and positively NO. __Just believing in Christ isn't sufficient for salvation. Oh my. You've got some explaining to do. __Saton himself believes in him. Yet Satan himself most assuredly has not confessed his sins or asked for forgiveness. Satan believes Him alright but salvation is never for him regardless of what he believes. ___Just believing in something dosen't make us a member of that something. Ok. I believe and ask. Hows that? Ok, Georg, I can understand why you say that but upon closer scrutiny lets observe a few things. #1. The woman with the issue of blood, Mk 5.25. This typifies ones salvation where Jesus says to her 'your faith has made you whole'. No where does it say she then followed Jesus. So it can be assumed she receives from Him wholeness/salvation without following afterwards. #2. He who believes and is baptised shall be saved. But what about being "born again"? Scripture again at this juncture makes no distinction. Matt 10..And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Again, no menetion of the born again experience. Now it can also be assumed, rightly or wrongly, that they were born again but the point is no mention of being born again as a requirement for salvation. This we do know: you must be born again to see and enter the kingdom of God. That's certain. Now I wouldn't hold out much hope for one who claims Jesus as his savior WITHOUT claiming Him as Lord but the scripture states that there will be those who are saved 'as by fire' or By the skin of their teeth as I see it. Again salvation is something that doesn't require me to choose to follow but only to accept as a gift then Jesus say's "If any man WILL follow me...." Now we are given a choice. Jn 6.65,66.. And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. This all has to do with entering into the Kingdom of God and NOT salvation. Begin to read the scriptures in that light and it will become a new book. Very exciting! |
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456 | Ask for a cold, and ye shall receive it? | Matt 16:6 | Ken hepting | 90949 | ||
The main gist of what the Bible is teaching is the Salvation of Jesus Christ, Hank. Correction...this is a shallow statement |
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457 | Ask for a cold, and ye shall receive it? | Matt 16:6 | Ken hepting | 90948 | ||
The main gist of what the Bible is teaching is the Salvation of Jesus Christ, Hank. ..This is not a true statement. |
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458 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 90904 | ||
Hank, I well understand why you believe that. I did for many years that left me with alot of questions no one seemed to be able to answer. I can see now where one doesn't have to be a disciple to be saved yet I wouldn't give much for ones claim of salvation if he/she wasn't pressing in to become a "son". Where's the love affair with Him if that isn't happening? But that's what discipleship -new birth-new nature- is all about and the necessity for Jn 3.3,5. Notice how Jesus responds to Nicodemos when Nic asked Jesus about eternal life. Jesus went right over the question to the reason He came to Earth. ie., reveal the Kingdom of God and Father's provision for our entering into it. Salvation is something we have nothing to do with. We are condemned to the cross. But 'sonship' is a different matter. "If any man will..." My faith takes me to Jesus to be made whole -see Mk 5.25-The woman with the issue of blood. Her faith took her to Him. By it she was made whole. Jesus declared that. Then it ends there. Now He says if you "abide in Me and I in you anything you ask in my name will be given you". So we can see that abiding is the condition, obviously a variable now in need of perfection, for entering His kingdom, not for being saved. Not only that but once you abide in Him you become a kingdom of ONE; an individual as Jesus so we can't hold to the 'wwjd' because we aren't Jesus. We are still who we are, Hank and Ken. God has a different plan for us than He did for Jesus and yet we must be corporate to reveal His Body and His universal Kingdom with Him at the head. Much allegiance has to be displayed in our lives when we see this."Let every "*saved" man work out his own salvation - *kingdom life". Otherwise we're traitors. We can also now see where our works must reveal Him but they must be works originating in Him and not from self effort. "If any man will..." *-emphasis mine JN 17.2 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one. God shares His Glory with no one...so how come He shared it with us who follow after Him? What then is this new birth experience but the taking into ourselves, the Glory of God. Jesus said: "Learn of Me... take My yoke" |
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459 | Knocked out by holy spirit | Matt 16:6 | Ken hepting | 90902 | ||
Be encouraged, Brad, by your thinking that all the signs and wonders we May see are but subordinate issues to the one main one of becoming a son well pleasing in Father's eyes. You are saved by the blood of the Lamb now He says "If any *saved man will follow after me...." "If" being the operative word for you and I. see Heb. 2.10 where it says: "For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings." The whole world anxiously waits for this Spiritual condition from us. *- emphasis mine |
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460 | Ask for a cold, and ye shall receive it? | Matt 16:6 | Ken hepting | 90901 | ||
His book-s- should be lying next to your Bible. You'll read the Bible anew once you get into His "My Utmost for His Highest". That's a daily devotional you'll never tire of reading and will always call you up to a higher plain of Holiness. He'll give you answers to questions you never thought had answers. Try this www. myutmost.org July 28th. AFTER OBEDIENCE - WHAT? And straightway He constrained His disciples to get into the ship, and to go to the other side. . . ." Mark 6:45-52 We are apt to imagine that if Jesus Christ constrains us, and we obey Him, He will lead us to great success. We must never put our dreams of success as God's purpose for us; His purpose may be exactly the opposite. We have an idea that God is leading us to a particular end, a desired goal; He is not. The question of getting to a particular end is a mere incident. What we call the process, God calls the end. What is my dream of God's purpose? His purpose is that I depend on Him and on His power now. If I can stay in the middle of the turmoil calm and unperplexed, that is the end of the purpose of God. God is not working towards a particular finish; His end is the process - that I see Him walking on the waves, no shore in sight, no success, no goal, just the absolute certainty that it is all right because I see Him walking on the sea. It is the process, not the end, which is glorifying to God. God's training is for now, not presently. His purpose is for this minute, not for something in the future. We have nothing to do with the afterwards of obedience; we get wrong when we think of the afterwards. What men call training and preparation, God calls the end. God's end is to enable me to see that He can walk on the chaos of my life just now. If we have a further end in view, we do not pay sufficient attention to the immediate present: if we realize that obedience is the end, then each moment as it comes is precious. See also July 27th |
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