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41 | 'Separation' and 'Experience?' | Mark 15:34 | jg8ball | 1644 | ||
The way I've heard the separation explained is the Mark 15:34 passage: And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"--which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? The term forsaken could imply different meanings but one interpretation is that God "severed the link" for moment so that Jesus would be fully able to die for our sins. As far as the "experiencing Hell" part, I think you might be refering to Eph 4:8-10 - This is why it says: "When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men." (What does "he ascended" mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions ? He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) I've heard this verse used to describe that Jesus went to "an area of Hell" that was more of a waiting place for those God favored (Moses, Abe, Josh, Noah, etc...) Jesus freed them from this area and opened the door to Heaven for them and those that believe. As far as if this would be the way I would interpret them, I can't say. I'd have to do a whole lot more studying before I could say one way or the other. There may be other verses that are used to support these ideas but these are the ones that came to mind. |
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42 | What is Escaping Corruption of World? | Hebrews | jg8ball | 1612 | ||
I assume then that you do not believe once saved, always saved. | ||||||
43 | Jesus and Jehovah-same subject? | John 1:1 | jg8ball | 1611 | ||
Thanks again. He believes that Jesus is the Son of God, not God. He can't comprehend how the two can be the same. I've shown him Heb 1:8-12 and he admits that he has no answer for it and will ask his elders (which could get him into much trouble) I'm currently showing him the many verses that tell us that we are to worhship only God and verses that talk about worshiping Jesus. This too has him thinking a little more. Not sold yet, but at least thinking on his own (instead of through the watchtower) He admits that the JW's have been wrong before but points to the many errors other denominations have made like the spanish inquisitions. |
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44 | Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? | Job 38:1 | jg8ball | 1596 | ||
I wish I had the time to show you verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book why I believe God's plan of salvation is for EVERYONE that chooses to believe in Jesus and that EVERYONE is capable of making that choice if they honestly believe. Unfortunately not everyone will make that choice. I believe those people are too caught up in the world or may have known some "Christians" and decided that if that's how they act I'd rather not join or several other excuses. I leave you with this to ponder (please read it carefully): Luke 14:16-24: Jesus replied: "A certain man was preparing a great banquet and invited many guests. At the time of the banquet he sent his servant to tell those who had been invited, 'Come, for everything is now ready.' "But they all alike began to make excuses. The first said, 'I have just bought a field, and I must go and see it. Please excuse me.' "Another said, 'I have just bought five yoke of oxen, and I'm on my way to try them out. Please excuse me.' "Still another said, 'I just got married, so I can't come.' "The servant came back and reported this to his master. Then the owner of the house became angry and ordered his servant, 'Go out quickly into the streets and alleys of the town and bring in the poor, the crippled, the blind and the lame.' "'Sir,' the servant said, 'what you ordered has been done, but there is still room.' "Then the master told his servant, 'Go out to the roads and country lanes and make them come in, so that my house will be full. I tell you, not one of those men who were invited will get a taste of my banquet.'" |
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45 | Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? | Job 38:1 | jg8ball | 1594 | ||
First of all there is no biblical evidence of what happend to Pharoah. You cannot assume one way or the other. Yes, there is a posibiity that Pharoah's realized the power of God and repented. The opposite is also possible. There is no sin to great for God to forgive. Just because God hardened his heart does not mean he was damned. It just means that he had to use Pharoah to demonstrate the great power of God to both the Egyptians and the Isrealites. What happened after the Sea of Reeds is not stated in the Bible (that I'm aware of). Egyptian history may offer some clue but that really doesn't matter. |
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46 | Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? | Job 38:1 | jg8ball | 1577 | ||
You actually believe (as an analogy) that God wrote this big book and we are the characters in that book unable to express our own thoughts and wills but rather follow the script that God wrote? I'm sorry, but I just can't agree with that analogy. You mentioned the people in Noah's day. How does this hold up with your beliefs? Did God only "choose" Noah and his family as elect and realized that he didn't choose enough "good" people so he wiped out everyone else and started over or did He wipe out other Elect people? You also mentioned other people in the OT that God directly influenced. I do believe that God will "override" our will when necessary to see that his plan comes to pass. God predestined his plan of salvation for us. He wants us all to be saved and has made a provision for that through Jesus Christ. He wants us to love Him, not by His will, but by our own will. If you want to relate it to something, then a play would be a better example than a book. In this play, God created the opening characters and the setting for these characters to live. He also created a rough story line to follow but then gave these characters the abilty to "ad-lib" so that He could sit back and watch. Every once in a while, He'll throw in a plot twist or two or may guide a character a certain way to see that His ending is met. He's also there to help any character that asks for it. I admit it's not the best analogy, but It's not easy to incorporate God into something as simple as an author of a literary piece (other than the Bible). Finally, yes, I'd like to be a puppet (in the good sense), but I'd also like world peace, no hunger, no disease, etc... but that's just not the way I see that God works. I doubt that I'll ever be able to change your mind, and admit that you probably won't change my mind but I have been tring to see how you can interpret the way you do but just can't seem to agree with it. All I see is that you have taken a few verses out of the bible and interpreted the whole bible based on those verses, very similar to how the Jehovah Witnesses developed their understanding of the bible. When I interpret the bible, I try to use the whole bible and determine how it fits. If it seems contradictory, then I look at who the author was writing to, other things the writer had written, reference to OT that writer may have used and how that relates. When Paul is talking about the "Elect" and "God chose us" and "God foreknew us", he's talking to believers. These people can be called that because they have already chosen to follow Jesus. Paul was "building" these people up, encouraging them, reminding them what it means to be a follower of Christ. He was letting them know that God knew of his plan of salvation through Jesus from the beginning of time and that since they chose to accept Jesus into their hearts, they too are part of His plan. To imply that God's plan was to only select certain people to be saved and the others not to be saved is ridiculous. God may have hardened Pharoahs heart (or anyone elses) but did not prevent them from being repentent in the end. And finally, if you still believe that God chose only His "Elect" to be saved and that all the "Elect" will be saved because they cannot refuse the will of God, then how do you explain Jesus' words that it's harder for a rich man to go to heaven? |
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47 | Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? | Job 38:1 | jg8ball | 1533 | ||
Bottom line. Our views differ on what the term election means and who God chose. If I understand you correctly, you believe that God chose certain people that could be saved (and therefore chose certain people that could not be saved). The people that God chose to be saved are the Elect. I'm not sure if you believe all the Elect will be saved or if only some of the Elect will be saved though. I believe that God offered EVERYONE the opportunity to be saved. Jesus died for the sins of everyone - past, present, and future. I also believe that God wants us to accept His gift by choosing for ourselves to believe in His son. Those that choose to believe are the elect talked about in the Bible. God predestined his plan of salvation and this plan was that EVERYONE could be saved if they believed. Will everyone be saved? NO. Can people do good deeds to get into Heaven? NO. It is only through faith that a person can be saved - ANY person. We all start out the same. It's not until we choose to believe in the Lord that we are separated from this world and united through Christ. How can you read the Bible and interpret that God would choose to save only some people and not others and do this by making us puppets? What sense does it make to beleive that God wants us to worship and love Him and also believe that He choses who will do that? I'm sorry, but God chooses that we ALL worship and love Him, but because He loves us so much, does not want to force us, but rather choose for ourselves. I'm not sure if you have children, but would you rather force them to love you or would you rather have them want to love you for themselves? |
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48 | Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? | Job 38:1 | jg8ball | 1532 | ||
I'd love to respond with love and compassion but when the people that respond don't answer the questions or take parts of it and twist it around, it really gets frustrating. Sorry if that offends you but your response to my initital posting to you was just as offensive (if not more) to me. In retrospect, I probably should have been a little nicer when I pointed out that you did not answer my question but instead chose to pull a piece of it out and twist it around. It's just that it happens so often when talking about election. | ||||||
49 | Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? | Job 38:1 | jg8ball | 1501 | ||
Not only did you not answer my question, you took a small portion of what I said, twisted it around and used it to start another topic. (I've been finding this very typical of people that believe that the doctrine of election refers to God choosing some to be saved and others not to be.) Since you asked about the reason for sharing Christ to others, I feel you've got the order wrong. We share Christ in hopes of bringing others to Him which will result in more people worshiping God. I back this up with the Great Commission (Matt 28:16-20) which tells us to go out and make disciples of all nations, teaching them everything about Jesus. |
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50 | Is Jesus God? | John 1:1 | jg8ball | 1316 | ||
Thanks for the info. I'll let you know if it helps. I have been working with him for the last several months and he is extremely open (for a JW) but can't make that final step be he is able to admit of several flaws in the JW teaching. I just bought him a parallel bible with KJV, NASB, NIV, and NLT in hopes that he will read it for himself and see how the NWT clouds the meanings. |
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51 | Is Jesus God? | Not Specified | jg8ball | 1310 | ||
Can anyone show me any passages that show that Jesus is God? A friend of mine believes that Jesus is the Son of God but not God (and the Holy Spirit is the action of God but not God). I've shown him many verses but most can also be interpreted as separate individuals (for example: I baptize you in the name of the Father and in the Son, and in the Holy Spirit could be interpreted as baptizing in the name of the three separate entities.) I've also shown him the classic John 1:1 and similar verses but he interprets it at Jesus and God think alike, have the same mission, similar in nature, etc... Is there something in the Bible that very simply and cleary says that the Three are one? To me there are many verses that state this clearly, but to him, they state something completely different. |
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52 | Is Jesus God? | John 1:1 | jg8ball | 1311 | ||
Can anyone show me any passages that show that Jesus is God? A friend of mine believes that Jesus is the Son of God but not God (and the Holy Spirit is the action of God but not God). I've shown him many verses but most can also be interpreted as separate individuals (for example: I baptize you in the name of the Father and in the Son, and in the Holy Spirit could be interpreted as baptizing in the name of the three separate entities.) I've also shown him the classic John 1:1 and similar verses but he interprets it at Jesus and God think alike, have the same mission, similar in nature, etc... Is there something in the Bible that very simply and cleary says that the Three are one? To me there are many verses that state this clearly, but to him, they state something completely different. |
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53 | Predestination vs free will--a thought.. | Bible general Archive 1 | jg8ball | 1309 | ||
I couldn't agree with you more! |
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54 | Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? | Job 38:1 | jg8ball | 1288 | ||
I'm sorry but I don't see how you equate "God chose some to salvation and not others" to "not by works, lest anyone should boast" The "Not by works..." is simply saying that there is no good deed that we could do to get to Heaven, it is by faith alone. There is absolutely no way you could take this statement and come up with the idea that God has selected people that will not be saved. I agree that God must do the first act in our salvation. He did that when he sent Jesus to die for EVERYONE's sins - past, present, and future. That's very clear. If Jesus would not have died for our sins, then we would have no chance of getting in Heaven. God offered us the chance for salvation as a gift to us - a gift we don't deserve. Because God offered us this gift, it is then up to us to decide to accept it. Those that choose to accept it will be saved and are called the believers, born-again, Christians (although this term is now used usely), followers of Christ, elect, the chosen ones, etc... It just doesn't make any sense why God would only select certain individuals to be saved. Not because I don't think it's fair (for who am I to say what God should do), but more because I just can't see it that way in the bible. There are just too many examples of it being our choice. God opened the offer of salvation up to ANYONE that would believe. |
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55 | What abt Rom 8 and 1 Jn 2? | Hebrews | jg8ball | 1228 | ||
Ok, maybe "really easy" was not the best possible words to use. I was thinking about the exodus from Egypt when it appeared really easy for the Hebrews to forget what God had done for them. The really easy kind of stuck in my mind. If it would make you happy, then I'll change it to "possible". I've already stated my views on the other verses and won't bother you with them again - unless of course you'd again like to see that there is another possible (really easy) interpretation. Also, (and I'm not calling YOU a Calvinist but am using the term to define a group of people that lean more to the general Calvin beliefs) there was another thread which stated that Calvinists believe that children are lost as opposed to the Arminian belief that children are saved. Do you know if this is true? And is this also your belief? |
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56 | Snatch? | Hebrews | jg8ball | 1206 | ||
I think the key is the phrase "Escaping the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ" not just a word. You can't just pull a word out and call that the key to understaning the meaning. You have to look at the whole thought. | ||||||
57 | Did Solomon and Sheba have a child? | Bible general Archive 1 | jg8ball | 1205 | ||
Good question. I saw the same show and just took for granted they had a son -- my bad. I just did a bunch of searching and could not find anything stating that they had a son. The closest I found that could be remotely interpreted that way was 2 Chronicles 9:12 "King Solomon gave the queen of Sheba all she desired and asked for; he gave her more than she had brought to him." although I don't think I would interpret it that way. The host may have researched documents about the Queen of Sheba which may have implied that. I don't know. I just did a search at www.google.com on "queen of sheba" solomon son and found many sites that talk about their son. Whether it's true or not is for you to decide. Good luck. |
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58 | What is Escaping Corruption of World? | Hebrews | jg8ball | 1202 | ||
Thank you. At least now I'm beginning to see how you interpret it. What does "Escaping the corruption of the world" mean? |
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59 | When are we 'securely' saved? | Hebrews | jg8ball | 1199 | ||
We are "securely" saved when we enter Heaven. Although I can safely say that I am saved now and can't imagine that changing, I don't know my future. |
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60 | Is there an age of accountability? | Bible general Archive 1 | jg8ball | 1198 | ||
As far as an actual age, the Bible doesn't specify, and I believe rightly so. Each child is different and "understands" at a different age. To say that there is a certain age (ie: 8 years 3 months) that a child would no longer be saved would make no sense. I believe (based on our God be a loving God) that He would not send any child, that is unable to understand what it means to be saved, to Hell. I also believe this holds true for adults that are mentally unable to comprehend this for themselves. Your statement about Calvins beliving that children are lost is a suprise to me. I can't believe how someone could interpret that let alone belive that. The closest scriptual basis I could find is the following: Matt 18:2-4 "He called a little child and had him stand among them. And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." |
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