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41 | It's never effort-free with God! | 1 Thess 5:23 | Dalcent | 135245 | ||
Dear Steve, I hesitate to answer the query about ‘scripture alone’ by getting involved in very specific and applied examples; but this “not a virgin” stuff is so easy to disprove when we have Biblical geniuses like Jerome to draw on. Regarding Mat 1:25 And he knew her not till she brought forth her first born son: and he called his name Jesus. Normal English usage (which is what the translators work toward) is why you misunderstand this verse. Translations are not infallible. The phase is first-century Greek. If translators ‘transliterate’ idioms and something is lost they’re wrong. Jerome’s argument, you know: “it was usual among the Hebrews to denote by the word UNTIL only what is done, without any regard to the future.” What you don’t know is that he proves it conclusively by scripture, that this usage is REPEATEDLY seen elsewhere in the Bible: Gen 8:6-7 At the end of forty days Noah opened the window of the ark that he had made and sent forth a raven. It went to and fro UNTIL the waters were dried up from the earth. Did it come back when the waters were dried up from the earth? The OT words I give in BOLD each time is the Hebrew word ‘ad’ H5704 Isaiah 46:4 EVEN to your old age I am he, and to gray hairs I will carry you. I have made, and I will bear; I will carry and will save. Does God then cease to be? 1Maccabees 5:54 And they went up to mount Sion with joy and gladness, and offered holocausts, because not one of them was slain, TILL they had returned in peace. Where they slain after returning in peace? Luk 20:42-43 And David himself saith in the book of Psalms: The Lord said to my Lord, sit thou on my right hand, till(heos) I make thy enemies thy footstool. Does Jesus no longer sit at the Father’s right hand at this point? Mat 1:25 again, but knew her not until(heos) she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus. Nothing is implied about 'afterwards' in Jewish usage in ALL of the examples. They are all fair examples too. Words in foreign language are simply not always exactly translatable to exact equivalents in other languages. Maybe its time to start respecting Church fathers like Jerome who spent decades in the Holy Land and Bethlehem 1600 years and learnt Ancient Hebrew from contemporary Jewish friends and is Catholicism’s greatest Biblical Doctor. Maybe just maybe he was better placed than some 18th century American Bible interpreter. Frankly, Jerome has decimated your ‘until’ argument. I don’t want to sound triumphalistic but c’mon. This one has been put to bed. Dalcent. |
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42 | It's never effort-free with God! | 1 Thess 5:23 | Dalcent | 135212 | ||
Hi there, You cited: 1Co 11:2 Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you 1Co 11:16 If anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such practice, nor do the churches of God. In what way do these verses infer that these traditions refer only to the text of the NT rather than those traditions delivered orally which may have things to add? I can't see your point is proven in anyway in these verses. It doesn't say as I delivered to you in the Bible only! 2Jo 1:12 is absolutely clear John has more teachings to deliver than what he has put in writing: "Though I have much to write to you, I would rather not use paper and ink. Instead I hope to come to you and talk face to face, so that our joy may be complete," viz. some aspect of his teaching is not complete. Can you reword the last line. "Because your church reinterprets all the verses which point out the disprovals." I'm sorry but I can't make out what you're meaning here. I interested in understanding your point. Best Regards Dalcent |
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43 | It's never effort-free with God! | 1 Thess 5:23 | Dalcent | 135164 | ||
Hi there, Compare these three verses: Acts 20:20 how I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you in public and from house to house, 2Th 2:15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter. 1Ti 3:15 …the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth. Now please answer if possible: For, Acts 20:20, is the entirety of this ‘teaching’ contained in the NT, and has to be limited to this? Give a scripture. In, 2 Th 2:15, are the traditions taught ‘either by our spoken word or by our letter’ exact duplications, with no additional teaching delivered by ‘mouth?’ Yes or No or Don’t know? And, 1 Tim3:15, if there is any supplementary oral teaching, would it not obviously be held the ‘church of the living God’ where there is a 2,000 continuity / apostolic succession: rather than a denomination some man founded in say 1865, earnestly trying to work out what the apostolic teaching was using a Bible. Allowing the plain sense of 2 Th 2:15, if a doctrine is false, why can’t I ask for a scripture which disproves it, if it is held by my Church. Best Regards Dalcent |
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44 | It's never effort-free with God! | 1 Thess 5:23 | Dalcent | 135151 | ||
Hi New creature, You understand my question well, understanding that I am querying sanctification not our being made just by the atonement. How about? Mat 12:32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. (What is this forgiveness in the age to come?). This next one is after death isn't it? Where does it occur? 1Co 3:13 each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 1Co 3:14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. 1Co 3:15 If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire. What about this? An very enigmatic verse. Mar 9:49 For everyone will be salted with fire. What does Jesus mean here; why not just say he will never get out? Luk 12:59 I tell you, you will never get out until you have paid the very last penny." Post-death 'purification/sanctification' allegedly happens in the period between death and the general resurrection of the body on the last day. The Bible has very little to say on this period anyway. But souls are already pre-sorted into those who died in God's grace and those who are lost, aren't they? What about Dan 11:35 and some of the wise shall stumble, so that they may be refined, purified, and made white, until the time of the end, for it still awaits the appointed time. (Waiting for the resurrection of the last day perhaps?) Regards Dalcent |
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45 | It's never effort-free with God! | 1 Thess 5:23 | Dalcent | 135150 | ||
Hi there, I think I very nearly hold your views on justification (however I contend that faith is always evidenced by works: always! no hypothetical explanations how actually works are separate and not essential). However, most Christians of every stripe (I think) hold that there is also a divinely-led journey to actual (not imputed) sinlessness / holiness / sanctification. It is the former justification which gets you into heaven, only Christ's expiatory sacrifice gets you this amnesty! However, it is God's will that we become perfectly holy in actuality too. This is a separate issue. Regards Dalcent |
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46 | It's never effort-free with God! | 1 Thess 5:23 | Dalcent | 135100 | ||
Hi Guys, I’d like to provoke some thought about that most controversial of Catholic doctrines: Purgatory. Or let’s call it the completion of sanctification after death for those who need it. Or at least for me to really understand your view of the end of God's work in us. Justification (as is most commonly understood) is essentially the declaration by God that we are right with him. Even the nastiest sinner is justified as soon as he is ‘regenerate.’ This is essentially a judicial declaration; some of these people are still bound up with many sins and bad habits. This new Christian may still be addicted to drugs, still be a homosexual, etc. Nevertheless, this person is ‘just’ no sin is held against them by God because of the atonement. This person has embarked on the journey of Sanctification. Fortunately, God often eradicates some of these terrible sin patterns almost immediately. Perhaps an alcoholic or smoker is instantly delivered. This does not always happen. But hopefully, we are all on a journey in the direction of perfection or full sanctification. Of course we usually die first but we might get most or all of the way. However, some people don’t get very far on this journey at all; and some people don’t live very long after coming to know Jesus Christ. Anyway, God uses our earthly lives to discipline us and develop our sanctity. Heb 12:6 For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives." My question is do evangelicals believe that, unlike in life, God does the last bit of the work pain-free and even the uncleanest person is instantly perfect. Whooooosh! I know some will say yes quoting , 1Co 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. However, this is referring to the resurrection of the body at the end of history isn’t it. A person needing further sanctifying would be imperishable as well. This verse I submit disproves nothing. Because, a person needing further post-death sanctification is a justified Christian (as in life) I contend this does not in any way demean the atonement. I ask this as a topic for a bit of speculative theologizing. Those against, is there scripture conclusively proving God doesn’t sanctify in the after life. Regards Dalcent |
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47 | Married by church and not state? | Acts 20:28 | Dalcent | 135098 | ||
I truly sympathize with your plight; it is unfair. Unless your future wife is particularly rich, it seems so unjust. Best Regards Dalcent |
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48 | Married by church and not state? | Acts 20:28 | Dalcent | 135069 | ||
Dear Reighnskye, I would respectably submit that it is biblical for you to take advice on this from the pastors or elders that God has given your church to shepherd you. I have my opinions on this but I really think this is one directly for those who have pastoral responsibility for you and to go it alone would be wrong. May you be blessed 'by the God of your father who will help you, by the Almighty who will bless you with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that crouches beneath, blessings of the breasts and of the womb.' Your brother in Christ, Dalcent |
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49 | Pictorial evidence of where Paul landed | Acts 27:41 | Dalcent | 135066 | ||
Hi there, I thought you guys might be interested in seeing pics of exactly where St. Paul was shipwrecked when he landed in the small island of Malta. Having spent 5 weeks in this small place I am convinced that this is the real site and not just legend. There isn't really anywhere else on the island to hit a reef, or as you'll see a rocky islet a little out from the bay! Act 27:27ff When the fourteenth night had come, as we were being driven across the Adriatic Sea, about midnight the sailors suspected that they were nearing land. So they took a sounding and found twenty fathoms. A little farther on they took a sounding again and found fifteen fathoms. And fearing that we might run on the rocks, they let down four anchors from the stern and prayed for day to come. And as the sailors were seeking to escape from the ship, and had lowered the ship's boat into the sea under pretense of laying out anchors from the bow, Paul said to the centurion and the soldiers, "Unless these men stay in the ship, you cannot be saved." Then the soldiers cut away the ropes of the ship's boat and let it go. As day was about to dawn, Paul urged them all to take some food, saying, "Today is the fourteenth day that you have continued in suspense and without food, having taken nothing. Therefore I urge you to take some food. It will give you strength, for not a hair is to perish from the head of any of you." And when he had said these things, he took bread, and giving thanks to God in the presence of all he broke it and began to eat. Then they all were encouraged and ate some food themselves. (We were in all 276 persons in the ship.) And when they had eaten enough, they lightened the ship, throwing out the wheat into the sea. Now when it was day, they did not recognize the land, but they noticed a bay with a beach, on which they planned if possible to run the ship ashore. So they cast off the anchors and left them in the sea, at the same time loosening the ropes that tied the rudders. Then hoisting the foresail to the wind they made for the beach. But striking a reef, they ran the vessel aground. The bow stuck and remained immovable, and the stern was being broken up by the surf. The soldiers' plan was to kill the prisoners, lest any should swim away and escape. But the centurion, wishing to save Paul, kept them from carrying out their plan. He ordered those who could swim to jump overboard first and make for the land, and the rest on planks or on pieces of the ship. And so it was that all were brought safely to land. Act 28:1 After we were brought safely through, we then learned that the island was called Malta. http://www.fotoreiseberichte.de/malta/malta015gr.jpg Note the plinth on this pic with a tiny statue of Paul you won't be able to make out: http://www.maltavista.net/img/photo/images/st_pauls3.jpg http://www.maltavista.net/img/photo/images/st_pauls.jpg |
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50 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Dalcent | 135022 | ||
Hi Tim, Yes I live in the same Notting Hill as the movie. I once got asked by a confused Japanese tourist where the tourist attractions of Notting Hill were. I had to break it to him that it is just a residential area. Anyway I directed him to the famous 'blue door'. We have quite a few rich American celebrities who live round here. I agree that John 3:5 does not provide conclusive proof of the Catholic or traditional doctrine of baptismal regeneration. However, my belief is that the nascent Church held a body of scriptural interpretations: some doctrines are only in the scriptures in kernel form (such as the trinity, which took nearly 300 years to be understood and explicated yet is certainly in scripture) Furthermore, I don't ultimately limit Jesus' teachings to a collection of apostolic writings. Joh 21:25 Now there are also many other things that Jesus did. Were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. I don't accept Scripture is either 'perspicious' nor that the sola scriptura principle is biblical. I believe scripture teaches the opposite: 2Th 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast: and hold the traditions, which you have learned, whether by word or by our epistle. I don't believe this view belittles Scripture in any way. I'm sure I read and love the Scriptures more than most. If any Christian could have sat down with the elderly Apostle John I'm sure he could have explained many passages of Scripture. Who would say to him Scripture is perspicious and we are quite capable of interpreting it, we don't need your input. The Catholic Church has a realistic claim that it was given and has directly passed on a body of interpretations down the centuries. Best Regards Dalcent |
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51 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Dalcent | 134999 | ||
Dear Tim, The statement "The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation." is based I believe on John 3:5 - which we have all discussed rather a lot lately. What are you feelings on whether John 3:22's "After this" refers to the passage vv.1-21. Jesus (or rather his disciples) baptizes following the discourse; Jesus baptising occurs nowhere else in the NT. Personally I do not think this is a coincidence. You can read my Profile if you like which I just posted! Your Brother in Christ Dalcent |
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52 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Dalcent | 134987 | ||
Dear Tim, Catholics certainly say Baptism is necessary but go on to explain that this statement is not absolute. This page from their Catechism is the official stance of the Church, which I am perfectly happy with: VI. The Necessity of Baptism 1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation. He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them. Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament. The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are "reborn of water and the Spirit." God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments. 1258 The Church has always held the firm conviction that those who suffer death for the sake of the faith without having received Baptism are baptized by their death for and with Christ. This Baptism of blood, like the desire for Baptism, brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament. 1259 For catechumens who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament. 1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery." Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity. 1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them," allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism. http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P3M.HTM Dalcent |
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53 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Dalcent | 134950 | ||
Dear Doc, Tertullian is just one of myriads of Church fathers saying the same thing so what does it matter? The events of Acts 10 provided a SIGN to the Church that the Gentiles could be included in the Christian fold. Why does such a sign have to constitute the normative doctrine of Christian initiation. Catholics teach the normative method of Christian initiation is faith AND baptism. They do not insist that one must be baptised. It beggars belief that over and over and over again new Christians are baptized as and when they become Christians, and yet a whole wing of the Christian Church insists that the 'bible-way' is to pray Jesus into your heart. They know full well this is not described in the Bible. I'm impressed you realise the first hundreds of years of the Christian faith wasn't even slightly akin to the evangelical Church. Many evangelicals name drop fathers such as Ireneaus, Origen and Athanasius as if these men weren't Catholics! Dalcent If only: Act 8:36 And as they were going along the road, and the eunuch said, "What prevents me from praying Jesus into my heart?" Act 8:12 But when they believed Philip as he preached good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they prayed Jesus into their heart, both men and women. Act 8:13 Even Simon himself believed, and after praying Jesus into his heart he continued with Philip. And seeing signs and great miracles performed, he was amazed. Act 2:38 And Peter said to them, "Repent and be praying Jesus into your heart every one of you for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Act 2:41 So those who received his word prayed Jesus into their heart, and there were added that day about three thousand souls. 1Pe 3:21 Praying Jesus into your heart, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, Gal 3:27 For as many of you as prayed Jesus into your hearts have put on Christ. 1Co 1:14 I thank God that I led none of you in the sinner's prayer except Crispus and Gaius, Act 22:16 And now why do you wait? Rise and pray the sinner's prayer and wash away your sins, calling on his name.' Act 19:5 On hearing this, they were prayed the sinner's prayer of the Lord Jesus. Act 18:8 Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed in the Lord, together with his entire household. And many of the Corinthians hearing Paul believed and prayed Jesus into their hearts. Act 16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their wounds; and he prayed the sinners prayer at once, he and all his family. Act 16:15 And after she asked Jesus into her heart, and her household as well, she urged us, saying, "If you have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come to my house and stay." And she prevailed upon us. Act 10:48 And he commanded them to pray the born-again prayer of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days. Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stop, and they both went down into the water, Philip and the eunuch, and he led him in the sinner's prayer. |
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54 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Dalcent | 134949 | ||
Dear Tim, You ask which specific verses I am thinking of: verses which talk of the last state of that person is worse than before he had believed, 'saving a soul from death' etc. I thought the verses quoted were so well known as not to need referencing. Anyway they where from: 2Pe 2:20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. Jam 5:19 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, Jam 5:20 let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins. I eagerly await your assessment of my quotes but I'm insisting that 'a brother who wanders from the truth' and the one who has 'escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ' are obviously Christians. Furthermore, a soul NOT saved from death, or 'the last state has become worse for them than the first' does not sound good. Your brother in Christ Best Regards Dalcent |
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55 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Dalcent | 134859 | ||
Dear Tim, Your comment 'we do not earn our salvation based upon anything that we do, nor can we lose our salvation based upon anything that we do' sure doesn't jump out at me as a statement that mirrors any passage of scripture. It requires an interesting interpretation on verses which talk of the last state of that person is worse than before he had believed, 'saving a soul from death' etc. As a Catholic, we would tend to believe: a serious mortal sin and rejection of Christ often go hand in hand, and it would be artificial to separate them. The unrepentant sinner, say a murderer or adulterer, cannot bear to face God and turns away. The mortal sin usually kills the believing faith in its tracks. Your 5th point says something akin to this). Faith will fade right away if you are deeply into the worse sins, even if you go through the motions externally to those in your Church. As regards the Catholic-Lutheran Declaration, it is not a agreement in full but a statement which shows that there are many common areas in the understanding of Justification. Certainly, the popular view held by many 'ordinary' evangelicals is simply false: viz. we believe in works-salvation not Christ's atonement. This is thanks mainly to the anti-Catholic slanders published by Dave Hunt, Jack Chick, Bart Brewer, Ralph Woodrow, etc. I have read your statements of faith at www.nazarene.org and must say you are far closer to the full revelation than the type of evangelicals I know (and was). Dalcent |
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56 | WHO pays the wage? | 1 John 1:9 | Dalcent | 134769 | ||
According to the JOINT LUTHERAN-CATHOLIC DECLARATION ON THE DOCTRINE OF JUSTIFICATION 1997. Catholics and Lutherans are 'now able to articulate a common understanding of our justification by God's grace through faith in Christ' The document is at http://www.cin.org/users/james/files/jddj.htm and articulates my position far better than I can. Dalcent |
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57 | WHO pays the wage? | 1 John 1:9 | Dalcent | 134762 | ||
Certainly, Luther never condoned such behaviour. But he did use it to explain justification. A Catholic would never explain justification this way. Nevertheless, Catholics and Lutherans agreed a Joint Statement on Justification in 1997. http://www.cin.org/users/james/files/jddj.htm It is a myth that Catholics teach salvation by works. Always was! Dalcent |
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58 | WHO pays the wage? | 1 John 1:9 | Dalcent | 134755 | ||
Mommabps, I am at a loss to understand why you would put this theory of yours above the clearer teaching of scripture. What do you want 1200 scriptures contradicting your hypothesis? 2Ti 2:12 if we endure, we will also reign with him; if we deny him, he also will deny us; Heb 10:26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, Jam 2:14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? Heb 10:38 but my righteous one shall live by faith, and if he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him." Jam 1:26 If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. 1Pe 1:17 And if you call on him as Father who judges impartially according to each one's deeds, conduct yourselves with fear throughout the time of your exile, Jam 2:17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 1Co 15:1 Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, 1Co 15:2 and by which you are being saved, if you HOLD FAST to the word I preached to you--unless you believed in VAIN. Jam 2:24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 1Jo 3:7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 2Pe 2:20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. 2Pe 2:21 For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. 2Pe 2:22 What the true proverb says has happened to them: "The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire." 1Jo 5:16 If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life--to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. 1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 1Co 5:11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler--not even to eat with such a one. Jam 4:4 You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. Jam 5:19 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, Jam 5:20 let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins. 1Pe 4:17 For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? 2Co 13:2 I warned those who sinned before and all the others, and I warn them now while absent, as I did when present on my second visit, that if I come again I will not spare them-- Gal 6:9 And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up. What is the point of continuing; you have a Bible you've read all this already I presume. How about dropping jargon like 'performance Christianity' and read the Word, in its plain sense , not pretending each verse I quoted means the opposite because what you bring to the Bible demands it. Dalcent |
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59 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Dalcent | 134741 | ||
It is fascinating to the student of theology, and those who charge the Catholic Church with error to compare our beliefs with those Churches who broke off after the Council of Chalecedon 451, viz. the Monophysite or (more politically correct these days) the non-Chalcedonians. Most importantly the great historical patriarchate of Alexandria. We have such a Church in my city of London, viz. of Egyptian Coptic Christians who I have enjoyed visiting. You will find they hold virtually all the distinctives of Catholicism despite being entirely separate for 1565 years. The accusation of Catholicism's "errors" belonging to the medieval period is sheer myth and examining these Christians will put that lie to rest. Their website is http://www.stmark.org.uk/flashpage.htm |
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60 | WHO pays the wage? | 1 John 1:9 | Dalcent | 134740 | ||
To quote my Catholic study Bible: Works done by our own strength without the grace of God and without faith in him are vain. This is the Catholic teaching on faith AND works. A Catholic would never separate faith AND works in explaining justification, hence the rejection of 'faith alone'. We would never say like Luther we could commit adultery 100 times and it not affect our justification. Faith without works in dead. God bless Dalcent |
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