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41 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167522 | ||
I believe to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord ( 2 Cor 5:8 ) I am a Spirit, i have a soul, and I live in a body. Someday I will leave this body. I don't call that death, I call that a homecoming :) |
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42 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167523 | ||
God would never discourage the use of hospitals, they are wonderful tools for those who have not come to the knowledge of Christ their healer. My mother is a nurse, there is nothing wrong with a profession that helps people. I fully support them, I don't need them, but untill someone gets int he Word, and trusts Jesus as their healer, they might need them. From your 1st point, you said If God wants someone dead, then you sending them to the hospital wont prevent it. Then by that same token if God wants someone saved ( which we can agree he wants everyone saved ) should you still give them pornography, should you still give them heroine? No you shouldn't, and how come? Because those things are contrary to the Word of God. If God has made a decree, we better follow it. If God wants something to happen, and if we try to disobey it, and not support it, we are in sin brother. So if God wants someone dead, and you send them to a hospital to try to save their life, you are opposing the work of God. God Bless, Mitch |
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43 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167524 | ||
Its good to be particular brother, I wouldn't want to discuss the Word any other way. However, what I'm seeing here, is that the word with, yes does show you that persecution comes with the 100 fold. Thats all I'm trying to say, when you recieve the 100 fold, then you get persecution with it. Now this is a crazy illustration, but let me just go ahead and say it... Lets say I buy a brand new dodge truck, and when you purchase this particular truck, you get a person with it that follows you around and throws pie in your face all day long. I could say I have the pie throwing man because I bought the truck? Because he came with the truck... correct? Thats all I"m saying brother. I'm saying you get the persecution, when you get the 100 fold. Mitch |
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44 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167563 | ||
Do you believe God's will in heaven is for people to die? Do you think he wants death to take place in heaven? HOw about 1 Peter 2:24 that says by the stripes of Jesus we are healed? Its found in Isaiah as well, I know you know that. Also part of Isiah is quoted in the Gospel, you know that as well. That shows its God's will to heal. Where can you find that shows its not always his will? Again I ask, if we are to pray Thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven. Are we to think that sometimes he wants people to die in heaven? And would you ever pray repetedly for God to grant you salvation, or do you think that you only have to pray that one time? Do you think a person has to get up every morning, and become born again , again? Also, if at times its God's will to kill, then we can say that Satan does the work of God, correct? Just some thoughts, Mitch |
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45 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167564 | ||
Death is still here, as long as we can be martyed for the Lord Jesus. That is the only 'death' I ever might experience. And yes, salvation is complete deliverence from the curse, the Word says that doesn't it? Jesus has delivered us from the curse, correct? Death is the final enemy to be destroyed, and yes, it will be done. Sin will finally be destroyed as well wont it? Sin will take a man to the pits of hell and he will be tormented forever. But just because sin exists today in this earth, does it mean I am full of it? IN other words, just because death exists, doesn't mean I have to be in bondage to it. You don't have to die sick and poor, you can die like Moses did, you can know you are going to go, and know when you are going to go. It doens't have to be cancer, it doens't have to be a heart attack, its simply a matter of your life force going home to be with the Lord. On another note, since we agree that death is our enemy, then if God brings death upon us, how does that not make God our enemy? Your Brother, Mitch |
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46 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167565 | ||
We'll close this part up here Brother, I responded about death in that other thread we have open up a bit. It gets to confusing having so many at once :) But in short, no, Christians die just like other people. Some Christians die from sickness, that doesn't mean we all have to does it? I'm simply saying, death is not sickness. There is a time that if Jesus tarries, I will leave this earthly body, I will as you call it 'die' but it wont be from any form of sickness or disease, I'll be an old old man, and age wont be a factor in my leaving this planet. Mitch |
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47 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167568 | ||
Is there anything in Scripture that forbids you to go against the will of God? Because I'm fairly certain, if you go against God, as Satan does, you are in sin. And it is the exact same thing brother. If a man gets born again, and he was an alcoholic, and in order for him to fully put away that addiction from his life, he needed to stay away from all forms of alcohol, yet if you ran up to him and said, here is some good beer, drink it, besides, if God wants you off the stuff, he'll do it. IF God wants someone dead, and you try to prevent that, then you are in the exact same place as Satan, you are exalting yourself against God. God Bless, Mitch |
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48 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167569 | ||
Even if it doesn't indicate 'cause' as you say. I'll believe that... actually give me some insight, I understand we read the Greek, and go on it, but is that what Jesus would have spoken in, or would he have spoken in Aramaic? Anyways.... the text clearly shows that the persecutions come with the 100 fold. So we can easily say if you have the 100 fold.. you have the persecutions.. .and on the same note, you can also say that if you dont hae the 100 fold, those persecutions that come with giving up something for the Lord, won't be with you then will they? If you get A, you get B. To get rid of B, don't get A... correct? |
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49 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167654 | ||
Well you can try to read it however you want. From what I see in the passsage, the Word says if you give up those things, you get 100 fold in return (except wives ) and you get persecutions. When I learned cause and effect in grammar school I was tarught you don't have to use the words such as because and since, it can be implied. And when you tell me that I get such and such, and say with such and such, then you easily show me that one comes with the other, meaning if I don't have one, i wont get that other. I know bleievers suffer persecution but I bleive this scripture is showing us that there is persecution which comes wtih this 100 fold return. Meaning, someone who has the 100 fold in their lives, might be suffering something that someone who doesn't. Thats all I'm saying, the word says persecution comes with the 100 fold. Its that simple. God Bless, Mitch |
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50 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167655 | ||
If everytime a believer dies, you say its the 'just punishment of sin' then woudln't that mean that person went to hell.. since they died in sin? Jesus took the penalty of sin from me, I don't have to have any of it. I might leave this body, but I will not die due to sin. I am delivered from all the effects of sin. I never have to live in this life with any form of sickness or disease, or poverty lack and want, I never have to live without God in my life. Thats just how it is brother. God Bless, Mitch |
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51 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167656 | ||
On a side note, you seem very knowledgebel so I'd like to as you a question.. I am looking to find a new text that will help me study the words used in the hebrew and greek.. I've heard of one called the complete word study bible... i have a strongs.. and a vines dictionary.. but i want more.. always eager to learn more.. what do you suggest? Mitch |
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52 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167939 | ||
This is not speaking aobut tongues in your own prayer life. This scripture is referring to the Gift of Tongues. Its talking about church service and the giftings of God. ie. Apostle, prophet etc. Tongues in prayer is for everyone, otherwise Paul would be very rude when he said he spoke in tongues more than them all. If he was saying that, and also taught that not everyone would be able to speak in tongues, then that would make Paul a braggart, not to mention highly rude. Tongues have not ceased, I've heard that before, but you can not find scripture to prove it. Bascially Bible Thumper told you guys right. The Word plainly shows that Speaking in other tongues was an initial sign of the Baptism in the Holy Ghost. If this is not the case, give scripture that shows it to be false. God Bless, Mitch |
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53 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167957 | ||
The tongues of fire, as with the sound as a mighty rushing wind, signified the moment God poured out his Spirit upon all flesh. If you read in the book of Ezekiel chapter 1 verse 27 you see Ezekiel describing God as a fire from the loins up, and a fire from the loins down. You also know the story of the burning bush, God is equated with light, with bright burning all consuming fire. The day of Pentecost in the book of Acts, is the moment his Spirit was poured out. Obviously, when that happened, it changed alot of things in the Earth as we know it and that , just like the sound of as a rushing might wind, were evidenced of what was occuring. The sound brought many people to see what happned, and many were born again that day after Peter preaches, so perhaps it was God, drawing in the first of the wonderful harvest. The fire of tongues, doesn't have to happen when someone recieves the Holy Ghost, it says in Acts 2:3-4 that the tongues like as of fire sat upon each of them. And it goes on to say in verse 4 and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost and began to speak with other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. It says nowhere that the tongues is what filled them, it just says the tongues appeared and that they were filled. Paul was converted on the road to damascus when he saw a vision of the Lord Jesus and heard the Lord speak to him, at that moment, Paul became a believer in Jesus Christ, however, you don't have to have that same exact experience in order to believe. The tongues, is not what is the necessity, the fact that they were then filled, is a necessity. I believe the fire simply was God himself pouring himself into the entire atmospheric envelope, and he showed up in all his Glory! AS for the difference between the two types of speaking in tongues, let me try to describe it as best I can for you. Starting in Acts 2:4 and going througout this particular book we see that the Holy Ghost is given, after salvation, and that those who recieve it spoke in other tongues. Now, also through the rest of the New Testement, tongues is dealt with. Mainly the gift of tongues, and not tongues for your own personal life. Let me start in 1 Corinthians. In 1 Corinthians and chapter 12, Paul starts off by saying concering spiritual gifts, he doesn't want us to be ignorant. He says in verse 4 that there is diversities of gifts but the same Spirit. He says in verse 5 there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And in verse 6 he says there are diversities of operation, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. And in verse 7 he says the manifestation of the Spirit, is given to every man to profit withal. In verses 8 through 10 Paul lists these gifts, which include and isn't excluded to, 'divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues' These are the ones we are wanting to deal with. So Paul here, is talking about the gift of tongues, which is used in a church service. In that same chapter and verse 28 Paul says that God has set these gifts in the Church, he's set apolstles, prophets, teachers, miracles, gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Paul then goes on in 29 and 30 and points out that not everyone is an apostle, prophet, teacher, worker of miracles, has the gift of healing, speak with tongues, and interpret. We know the answer is no, everyone doesn't do all of those do they? He is talking about ministry, apostle is a ministry calling, teaching is a ministry calling ( Eph 4:11 ) so Paul is speaking of this gift of tongues, at the same time as an apostle or prophet, or any of those other ministries mentioned in Eph. Notice that verse 9 of this chapter starts off saying 'To another faith by the same Spirit....' If we are to say that the tongues are only for a few select people, whoever the Spirit decides, and that there is only one form of speaking in tongues, we'd have to say that there is only one form of Faith, and that not everyone has that, since the Spirit gives the Faith out to whomever he wills. And we know in Hebrews Chapter 11 it says that without Faith it is impossible to please God. So if not everyone was allowed to have Faith, since we are saying the Faith here is the exact same as the Faith that a person needs for conversion, then we have to agree that some people have no faith. And who will ever agree to that? So we have to admit, that in this chapter, there is a ministry related , or church service if you will, related faith, that at times the Spirit will give to whom he wants. Yet everyone has faith. (Read my next post for the rest of this answer) |
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54 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167958 | ||
Now, Lets deal with prayer tongues. Paul says in 1 Cor 14:18 that 'I thank my God I speak with tongues more than ye all' And in verse 19 he says 'Yet in the church...' So Paul shows here, that he speaks in tongues outside of the church service. Which would have to mean that he has a manifestation in ihs life of speaking in tongues that is done outside the church service. And in Chapter 12, he was dealing with a version that was done in the church service. Also, lets look at one more place. In Jude verse 20 the Word says "But ye, beloved, bulding up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost" Now, if we are commanded to pray in the Holy Ghost, which that just commanded us to do so, then how would God be just to command us to do something, that we could not do? And if we say that not everyone can pray in the Holy Ghost, then we are saying God is unjust to require us to do something, he hasn't given us the ability to do. It would be no differnt than me telling my son if he doesn't literally fly into the kitchen, he can't have dinner. That would be very unjust of me. Also, sorry, I have one more thing. In the Book of Acts and chapter 2, we see the 120 filled with the Holy Ghost, and the 120 speaking in other tongues, and we see them on the street and other people are amazed. Now, Paul said that if there is no interpreter, then don't speak in tongues in the church service. So if what they are doing in Acts, is the same as the Gift of Tongues that Paul writes of in Corinthians 12, then on the day of Pentecost, God himself messed up, and had these men doing something, that he didn't want to happen. Just more food for thought. I hope this has helped brother. If I missed any points, please let me know. God Bless, Mitch |
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55 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167964 | ||
Thanks for the discussion! Let me address what you said 1) In 1 Corinthians 14:19 Paul says 'Yet in the church...' How does that not show that he does this in the church, as well as outside the church? He is saying He speaks with tongues, then says 'Yet in the church' so he has to be saying something to the effect ' I speak with tongues more than any of you, yet when I get into a church service, I would rather.... ' 2)What do you say that Jude 20 is talking about when it says Praying in the Holy Ghost, my reason for saying praying in the Holy Ghost is praying in other tongues, because Paul says in 1 Cor 14:15 that he will pray with the spirit, which it is the spirit, which the spirit is the holy ghost... so he is saying, I will pray with the Holy Ghost. So Jude is saying to pray in the holy ghost... which must mean tongues, since Paul said praying in the spirit is tongues. 3)You say no interpreter was necessary because each one heard them speaking in his own language. Do you think that the 120 were all saying the exact same thing? I don't see why they would all be speaking in tongues the exact same thing, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. However, no matter if they were or weren't, if one of them is speaking in another tongue, and its the tongue that a man from Egypt understands, does that mean the Asian understands it as well? Or would he still need an interpretation to know what that feller was saying? I hope I made sense in that point, what I'm saying, is if you were to speak in tongues, and it happed to be Spanish, the mexican man next to me wont need an interpreter, because it was his language, however I'm from the US and would not understand it at all, so I would still need an interpreter to know what you were saying. So there is no way, everyone, understood what all 120 were saying. God Bless, Mitch |
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56 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167965 | ||
What does 1 Cor 14 mean when Paul says I will pray with the spirit, and he says that when he prays in an unknown tongue his spirit prays? And in Acts, how were they speaking in another tongue in order to share the Gospel, It does not say that when Peter preached he was speaking in another tongue, if they spoke in tongues in order to share the Gospel, how did so many understand Peter, and come to repentence? Did he speak in all those differnt languages at once. Here is something you can study out for yourself, I have leanred through certain history texts, that at that time, every Jew spoke at least two languages, Aramaic, and the language of their country, such as Egypt, Asia, etc. So they didn't need the tongues, in order to preach. God Bless, Mitch |
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57 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167969 | ||
The Amplified says for verse 14 For if I pray in an [unknown] tongue, my spirit [by the Holy Spirit within me ] prays, but my mind is unproductive [it bears no fruit and helps nobody] So here, it is saying, the Holy Spirit, is what he is praying with the Holy Spirit. God Bless, Mitch |
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58 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167973 | ||
Could the noise as of a rushing mighty wind gather the crowd? I understand the tongues could have gathered the crowd, but if it was the tongues that were used in order to teach them, did Peter still speak in all those different tongues at once in order to preach? Or was he preaching in whatever language was natural to him? | ||||||
59 | Where in Acts does it say that? | Acts 1:1 | mitchm0521 | 167995 | ||
Well first off, If you don't believe the amplified bible, I'll stick with the KJV. Secondly, you said the word my would strongly suggest that it is not the Holy Spirit, so let me ask you about Phil 4:19 says 'My God shall supply all your need according to his riches in Glory.' Since this passages uses the pronoun 'my' should we also say that the God refered to here then is not the God of Heaven? Is it some other God? Mitch |
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60 | unknow tongue and then proceed to interp | 1 Cor 12:10 | mitchm0521 | 167993 | ||
Because God has designed that it can go this way. 1 Cor 14:13 says who speaks in an unknown tongue, let him pray that he may interpret. God Bless, Mitch |
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