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41 | Is "Paradise" the same as heaven? | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 173238 | ||
Again you do not understand the Jewish use of synedoche. Three days; three days and three nights; thrid day since they all mean the same thing He was in the grave on part of Friday (one day and night) all day Saturday (two days and a night) rose Sunday AM (third day since, three days, three days and three nights). | ||||||
42 | Is "Paradise" the same as heaven? | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 173237 | ||
you implied 72hrs | ||||||
43 | Are we presenting the gospel scripturaly | Acts 2:38 | koscheiman | 173236 | ||
We are saved by the gospel of Jesus Christ According to 1 cor 15 that is the death, burial, and resurrection. Likewise according to Paul when we are baptised we re-enact the gospel and are raised to a new life Try reading Rom 6 for a discussion of baptism. | ||||||
44 | Is "Paradise" the same as heaven? | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 173200 | ||
No where in Scripture does it say Christ was in the Grave 72 hours. Perhaps you need to learn the concept of synecdoche in which a part represents a whole. The Jewish people used this figure of speech all the time. B. Literally 3 days and 3 nights equals 72 Hours impossible! Those who insist that we must literally interpret 3 days and 3 nights equals 72 Hours "It is the sign of Jonah" they say, have not understood that it is impossible to harmonize LITERALLY all the data. If Jesus was resurrected If he rose AFTER the third day, after 72 hours, then all the above verses would read on the FOURTH day. "On the third day" vs. "after three days" are literally quite different: If Jesus raised literally "on the third day", then the third day was not yet over, it is literally less than 72 hours. If Jesus raised literally "after three days", then Jesus would have risen sometime literally after 72 hours. But this would be ON THE FOURTH DAY. Notice that the chief priests and Pharisees wanted the tomb guarded only until the third day, because that is when the resurrection was to occur, NOT on the fourth day! And remember, the watch at the tomb began at the end of the seventh day Sabbath, so that it could be guarded for all of the third day, which Sabbatarians say is Saturday. It was at the end of the duration of 3 days, using their own literalness, that guards STOPPED guarding the tomb. This proves that Jesus was going to raise before, not AFTER 72 hours had elapsed! Since we have irrefutable Bible evidence that 3 days and 3 nights may in fact be literally less than 72 hours or 3 days and 2 nights or 3 nights and 2 days (Cornelius: Acts 10:3,9, 23,24,30; Starving servant: 1 Sam. 30:12,13; Queen Esther 4:16; 5:1) we must call into question the literal length of time Jonah was in the sea monster!!! In light of the Bible passages, how can we be sure that Jonah was literally (Roman time thinking) 72 hours in the sea monster??? We come full circle to the well established point that the Jews would have viewed Friday 3 PM to Sunday 6 AM as being 3 days and 3 nights! http://www.bible.ca/d-3-days-and-3-nights.htm |
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45 | Is "Paradise" the same as heaven? | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 173199 | ||
No you are quite wrong the Sabbath is singular referring to the one Sabbath which also happened to be Passover. | ||||||
46 | However, after Jesus finished His work o | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 173188 | ||
The book of Revelation specifically says it is not literal. The fact that it is an apocalypse makes that obvious. | ||||||
47 | Is "Paradise" the same as heaven? | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 173186 | ||
Mark says it was the day before the Sabbayh that happens to be Friday And when even was now come, because it was the Preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, there came Joseph of Arimathaea, a councillor of honorable estate, who also himself was looking for the kingdom of God; and he boldly went in unto Pilate, and asked for the body of Jesus. (Mark 15:42-43) |
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48 | Are we presenting the gospel scripturaly | Acts 2:38 | koscheiman | 173185 | ||
Actually the Greek in Eph 2:8-9 says "the faith" not just faith. Like in Jude 3 where it reads "Contend earnestly for the faith" refferring to the system of belief known as the gospel. Secondly, the context of 1Peter 3:21 is plainly salvation through water. As Noah was saved by the flood so we are saved by baptism. I really do not know how the Scripture could word it more plainly. Also James quite plainly says we are not saved by faiyh alone James 2:24. |
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49 | The Law of Moses has been abrogated | Matt 5:17 | koscheiman | 173184 | ||
No you cannot because it is no longer in force. | ||||||
50 | The Law of Moses has been abrogated | Matt 5:17 | koscheiman | 173183 | ||
All OT law has been abrogated. I do not worship ido;s because the NT says there is one God; I do not murder for the NT says this is wrong; I do not commit adultery because Jesus taught it was wrong. I do not sacrifice animals; I do not keep the Passover; etc. These were all shadws of things to come and have been replaced. | ||||||
51 | Are we presenting the gospel scripturaly | Acts 2:38 | koscheiman | 173136 | ||
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52 | gift of the Holy Spirit have ceased | Acts 2:38 | koscheiman | 173135 | ||
Act 2:39 For to you is the promise, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call unto him. what promise? Act 2:33 Being therefore by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath poured forth this, which ye see and hear. Act 1:4 and, being assembled together with them, he charged them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which, said he, ye heard from me: Where did God make this promise? Acts 2:16-21 but this is that which hath been spoken through the prophet Joel: (17) And it shall be in the last days, saith God, I will pour forth of my Spirit upon all flesh: And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, And your young men shall see visions, And your old men shall dream dreams: (18) Yea and on my servants and on my handmaidens in those days Will I pour forth of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy. (19) And I will show wonders in the heaven above, And signs on the earth beneath; Blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke: (20) The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the day of the Lord come, That great and notable day. (21) And it shall be, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. "All flesh" equals Jews and Gentiles not necessarily everybody. Act 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching good tidings concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Acts 8:14-17 Now when the apostles that were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: (15) who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Spirit: (16) for as yet it was fallen upon none of them: only they had been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. (17) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit. Receiving the gift of the Spirit was not automatic upon baptism. Apostles came from Jerusalem and laid there hands on them that they might receive the Holy Spirit. Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper country came to Ephesus, and found certain disciples: All Paul knows about the Ephesians is that they are believers and they've been baptized. He finds out they were wrongly baptized explains to them more fully and: Acts 19:2-6 and he said unto them, Did ye receive the Holy Spirit when ye believed? And they said unto him, Nay, we did not so much as hear whether the Holy Spirit was given. (3) And he said, Into what then were ye baptized? And they said, Into John's baptism. (4) And Paul said, John baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people that they should believe on him that should come after him, that is, on Jesus. (5) And when they heard this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. (6) And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. Bible says the gifts would cease: Ephesians 4:8-13 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended on high, he led captivity captive, And gave gifts unto men. (9) (Now this, He ascended, what is it but that he also descended into the lower parts of the earth? (10) He that descended is the same also that ascended far above all the heavens, that he might fill all things.) (11) And he gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; (12) for the perfecting of the saints, unto the work of ministering, unto the building up of the body of Christ: (13) till we all attain unto the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a fullgrown man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: When He ascended He gave gifts (this is also what Acts 2:33 says) The gifts were given to equip the saints Paul stated that these saints "knew in part and prophsied in part" 1 Corinthians 13:9 Gifts to continue "till we all attain the unity of the faith" There will come a time (has come) when complete prophecy and faith. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness. (17) That the man of God may be complete, furnished completely unto every good work. The man of God in the Bible refer to the prophets. The Scriptures as a unit have brought completiom to prophecy and the faith. |
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53 | The Law of Moses has been abrogated | Matt 5:17 | koscheiman | 173134 | ||
I must disagree with Matthew Henry's commentary on Matthew 5:17f. The book of Hebrews informs us that the old law is no longer in effect with the change of preisthood there was a change of law (Hebrews 7:12). Paul says the old law was nailed to yhe cross (Colossians 2:14) and we are dead (separated) to the law (Romans 7:4f). When Christ fulfilled the law and the prophets they were no longer in force. The old covenant (or law) was replaced by the new covenant and the law of Christ. | ||||||
54 | However, after Jesus finished His work o | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 173014 | ||
In the Apocalypse (the book of Revelation) everything is written in signs (Revelation 1:1) so when John says he "saw a new heaven and a new earth...and there is no longer any sea" this is figurative language. "The new conditions did not signify abolition of the old order of governments, nor the formation of new secular and political powers. The EARTH thru-out the apocalypse referred to the place of nations, with particular reference to Palestine; and the placid or tossed SEA referred to the state of society; and the word HEAVEN denoted the existing authorities of government. The new heaven and the new earth, and the troubled sea, having passed away and represented as no more, indicated the changed conditions within the existing government and society to make them favorable for the prosperity of the cause of Christ and His church thru-out the empire. The old system of Judaism had been removed and the opposition of heathenism had been overcome; and the vision represented new conditions to surround the church in the changed world." (from The Book of Revelation by Wallace). In 2 Peter 3:13 we have the following "But, according to his promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness." Here we have the following meaning, "The future state of the saved will be spiritual, hence the only way man can be given a foresight of it is by likening it to what he understands and enjoys while living in a material home. The present abode is on the earth with its two heavens, the atmosphere and the starry region. Genesis 1:14-16 says the heavenly hosts were made to give light upon the earth, hence it is proper to mention those heavens in connection with the earth when referring to the home of mankind. But while the form of language is based upon mans present abode, in reality his eternal home will be spritual and one wherin shall dwell righteousness." E.M. Zerr Peter says this present heaven and earth "by the same word have been stored up for fire" and "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up." Hebrews 1:3 states that Christ is "upholding all things by the word of his power" when He withdraws that word the elements will literally come apart at the atomic level thus liqufing in fervent heat the old universe that now exists and the saved will go to their heavenly home and praise God day in and day out. |
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55 | Is "Paradise" the same as heaven? | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 173004 | ||
What do you not understand? One Scripture said Jesus and the thief went to Paradise "today" i.e., the Friday of their deaths. The other Scripture which is on the day of Christ resurrection (Sunday) Jesus told Mary He had not gone to the Father as of yet. So if He went to Paradise on Friday Resurrected on Sunday but as yet had not been to the Father then the reference to Paradise in Luke is not where the Father is (heaven) You would do well to go to the following website and read http://www.mwchurchofchrist.com/pages/articles/aftdeath.htm |
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56 | Is "Paradise" the same as heaven? | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 173002 | ||
Hades and Hell are not the same place. | ||||||
57 | Is "Paradise" the same as heaven? | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 172959 | ||
And he said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To-day shalt thou be with me in Paradise. (Luke 23:43) Jesus saith to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended unto the Father: but go unto my brethren, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God. (John 20:17) These are the two Scriptures I mentioned in my post. As you can see in the Scripture in John Jesus had not as yet ascended to the Father yet He had already been to Paradise as of Luke's Scripture. Aparently here Paradise does not refer to heaven. |
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58 | Is "Paradise" the same as heaven? | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 172930 | ||
My point was quite clear according to Scripture Jesus went to Paradise also according to Scripture at the time of His resurection He had not ascended back to the Father. The conclusion Jesus went to Paradise but not to heaven where he Father was. Therefore Paradise in the Scripture in Luke is not referring to heaven. The KJV says Jesus went to Hell this is a mistranslation of the Greek the proper term is Hades. | ||||||
59 | Revelation not a book of future prophecy | Revelation | koscheiman | 172928 | ||
Wallace and myself and many others in the church are not Preterist because we do not believe the second coming of Christ has occurred, we do not believe in a rapture, and we do not believe the final judgment has occurred. We do believe that all biblical prophecy has been fulfilled. | ||||||
60 | Is "Paradise" the same as heaven? | Luke 23:43 | koscheiman | 172890 | ||
Hell and Hades are not the same thing. Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise" Luke 23:43. Now we know that Paradise here is not a reference to heaven because He said to Mary, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father..." John 20:17. | ||||||
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