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41 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54181 | ||
Dear John..... All writing is scripture....I'm writing scripture as I type, yet hardly "Holy Scripture"......"Holy Scripture" is "thus saith the LORD" writings.......that which Timothy knew from infancy. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb.....Bub |
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42 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54191 | ||
Hi Steve, It would depend on the context......the point is what did first generation Jewish believers, including Paul et. al. consider "scripture"? THERE WAS NO NEW TESTAMENT! Also, you didn't answer my question from Wednesday, I think it was......You said, "Heb 10:26-29 is addressing “Jews who have the Gospel, and are now wavering…on the verge of abandoning Jesus for the Law.” My question was: "Is that the same as the “Gospel” which is mentioned in Heb 4:2 and 4:6? Singing the Song of Moses and the song of the Lamb.....Bub |
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43 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54205 | ||
Hi Tim, Your comment: “My point was that the Law was not evil, but it has served it's [Hank would put a (sic) here :)] purpose and we are no longer bound by it.” Its purpose was to be our schoolmaster, right? To train us up in the way that we should go? Right? After you “graduate” do you throw out everything you’ve learned and leave a vacuum or REPLACE it with something else? I think not…….is what we learn in school the sum total of all we will ever know?….no… but it is the foundation upon which everything else will be supported…..if you remove the Torah, you remove the foundation and you have a house built upon sand, shifting ground, which Y’shua so amply illustrated. Your comment: “Jesus Himself taught that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.” Exactamundo………The Sabbath is a wonderful gift from the LORD to man and the religious elite had turned it into a real drag…….and Christianity has turned it into a non-event. You said, “We miss the point of the Sabbath if we simply elevate it to a rule which must be followed!” I totally agree……it is a sanctified day to assemble and enjoy the goodness of the LORD…….if one just sees it as an externally imposed mandate…..he should stay home and wash the car……he won’t get a thing out of the Sabbath and he’ll just put a damper on the party. As for the debate on the ending of Mark….I’ve already said all that I’m going to say....since we don’t have the original manuscripts all we can do is speculate. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb….Bub |
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44 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54309 | ||
Dear John...... I will attempt to explain my strange and new religion for you, I admit, it’s pretty wild and way out there. It began a long, long time ago in a far off land. The creator of the universe, I will call Him “the LORD” to keep the dialogue uncomplicated, sought to have fellowship with His creation. He did so by informing certain men as to who He is and what His will was for His creation. He told many of these priviledged men to write down what He had to say. I am privy to these writings and have built my strange and new religion upon them. The LORD was looking for a enclave of his creation to follow the wisdom of these writings and be a light, an example, for the rest of the nations, in hopes that they too would choose to join up with his chosen people…..He called these people “Israel” meaning "God prevails". Unfortunately, most of this group, although they got off to a good start chose to do what was right in their own eyes as opposed to following what was right in the eyes of the LORD….time doesn’t allow for the sordid details. As it appeared that these people needed a lot more assistance, instead of giving up on them, the LORD sent His Son to Israel to get them back on track…..instead of soley having the writings which the LORD prescribed, they would have a flesh and blood teacher to personally guide them back to the correct path……the Son’s name was Y’shua, an angel of the LORD told His mother to give Him that name. He told Israel to “repent”, to turn around and rethink things and make the necessary adjustments in accordance with the teachings of the LORD. He taught that this community of excellence, He called it a Kingdom, that the LORD originally had in His mind, would be established, with them or without them, and it would last for eternity……He said that everyone who did the will of His Father, i.e. followed the LORD’s teachings instead of doing what was right in their own eyes, was going to be included…….those who opted out would experience an unpleasant future. These teachings and warnings were accepted by some and rejected by others……some chose to remain in their comfort zone and follow the so called Jewish religious elite of the day or the popular Hellenistic secular way of life. As Y’shua was a threat to the status quo, the religious and secular elite had to dispose of Him, which He knew would happen. However, he arose from the grave as an affirmation to His followers……with many other implications that I will not get into at this point…..they’re pretty heavy. Y’shua’s apostles and His disciples and the first generation believers (reformed Israel)continued to reject the corrupt Jewish religious establishment and continued the “reformation” which Y’shua initiated. They were seen as a breakaway Jewish sect known as “the Way” or the “Nazarene sect” yet they still congregated at the Temple and synagogues with unreformed Israel. They were indeed a light to unreformed Israel as well as to the gentiles, and many chose to join this renewal of getting back to the teachings of the LORD and away from the teachings of men. Many years later some of them wrote down the history of their movement. There were also communiqués among each other and to the outlying communities which have been preserved. Within a short time, although the “religion” had grown by leaps and bounds it also, in many cases, reverted back to corruption…..Israel was up to its old tricks again.....so much so that the LORD gave orders to Y’shua that He needed to reveal even more to His people……He told John, one of His apostles, to write it down……He told Him to write letters to seven communities…….five of them were already way off base after only about fifty years, only two in seven remained faithful. This is the only record of anyone having been told by the LORD to write something in the post Y’shua period. That is basically the history of this “strange and new” religion, simplistically stated. You may be able to get a more comprehensive copy of the teachings of the LORD and the historical accounts of Y’shua at your local “strange and new” religion book store. continued……please see next post |
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45 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54310 | ||
continued from previous post: Now…….how I personally got sucked into this off the wall cult……it seemed to me that the closer I could get to the original congregation of Y’shua the closer I would be to authenticity……..there’s been a lot lost over the past 2,000 years so it’s not easy….incredibly however, there are a few of us all over the world who have come to the same conclusion…….so we devised this “strange and new” religion. The holiest days on the “strange and new” calendar that we follow are: The seventh day Sabbath of the LORD—looking back to the creation, and forward to the creation of a new heaven and a new earth and celebrating all of the LORD’s goodness in between. Passover--the day of the crucifixion of our Jewish Savior, Y’shua. The Feast of Unleavened Bread--symbolizing the removal of sin afforded through the Jewish blood of Y’shua. The Day of the Elevation of the Firstfruits—The day Y’shua arose from the grave, looking forward to our resurrection.. Shavout or The Feast of Weeks—the day that the Holy Spirit was poured out on the first generation believers of this “new and strange” religion who were in Jerusalem for the Feast. The Day of Trumpets—the final wake up call to repent, looking forward to the last trumpet which will usher in Y’shua’s return. The Day of Atonement—looking forward to the cleansing of the earth by Y’shua and the total annihilation of Satan. The Feast of Tabernacles—looking forward to the day when the tabernacle of the LORD will be with men, and He personally will tabernacle with them. I know those are bizarre and unchristianlike celebrations but after many years of observing those well documented, scripturally substantiated holy days of Sundays, xmas, good friday and easter, I needed a break. Thank you for your concern for my lost condition……. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb (that strange and new religion)….. Bub |
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46 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54311 | ||
Dear Steve..... The sacrifice was always to be at the place of the LORD's choosing.......I believe that Calvary is where one goes for his sacrifice. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb....Bub |
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47 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54350 | ||
Ed, I'll thank you to cease using your psychic abilities to tell others what it is that I worship. Bub |
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48 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54352 | ||
Steve, You definitely need a chill pill.........what is the "great commission"? And again (3rd time).......what is the word "gospel" referring to in Heb 4:2 and 6? Thanks......Bub |
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49 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54391 | ||
Hank, I'm sure that you know that the proper translation for Yahoshua into English is Joshua.....I have no idea where "Jesus" came from. The angel of the LORD gave Him His name......on what authority does anyone have the audacity to change it? I realize that Y'shua is a transliteration, hopefully it sounds like the name His mother called at dinner time. Would you turn around if anyone called "Harry" to get your attention? Bub |
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50 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54453 | ||
Dear Joe……. Do you have any Spanish friends, Joe? Do you call your Spanish friend Jose, “Joe”? Do you call Pedro, “Pete”? Do you call a Spanish person named “Jesus” (hay-soose), “Jesus” (gee-suhs)? If not, why not? Do you respect the integrity of his name and heritage perhaps? As for: “Likewise, "Jesus" comes from the Greek version of the Hebrew name. That is why we see Moses' successor being called "Joshua" in the Hebrew Scriptures and my Redeemer being called "Jesus" in the Greek ones.” How can a translator translate “iesous” as “Jesus” in one place and as “Joshua” in another? SEE HEB 4:8? That is sloppy, inconsistent translating. Again, I ask……..Strong’s et al acknowledge that “Joshua” is the proper translation for Yehoshua and Iesous………where did “Jesus” come from? As for, “And lest we insist that the Savior of the world be called by his Hebrew name or be dishonored, let's remember that the Holy Spirit inspired the Greek transliteration that the apostles penned....” WHHHHHAAAAATTTTTTT? That’s a ROFLOL!!!!!! El Bubbo |
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51 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54454 | ||
Dear Ed, You said, “I understand how Jesus is a fulfillment of the festivals”. Do you celebrate the festivals with that in mind? Bub |
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52 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54466 | ||
Dear Indiana (to keep from getting the Steves mixed up), My specific question was, “To what is the word “gospel” referring in Heb 4: 2 and 6?” Your response was: "Gospel" refers to The good news of God's grace - attainable in the OT by obedience to the Law and attainable in the NT and today by faith in Christ.” I realize it would be painful to directly answer the question in that Hebrews 3 and 4 is talking about Torah, the teachings of the LORD…..it is not talking about OT grace or NT grace, although that was certainly available in both….Heb 3-4 is talking about the "gospel" and “obedience”......how often do you see those two words anywhere near each other? Heb 3:5 “MOSES was faithful as a servant in all God's house, TESTIFYING TO WHAT WOULD BE SAID IN THE FUTURE.” (read that again) Heb 3:16 “Who were they who heard and rebelled? Were they not ALL THOSE MOSES LED OUT OF EGYPT?…..[18] And to whom did God swear that they would never enter his rest if not to THOSE WHO DISOBEYED? (disobeyed what?) [19] So we see that they were not able to enter, BECAUSE OF THEIR UNBELIEF.” (NOTICE……”DISOBEDIENCE” IS PARALLELLED WITH “UNBELIEF”) Heb 4:1 “Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. [2] For WE ALSO HAVE HAD THE GOSPEL PREACHED TO US, JUST AS THEY DID; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because those who heard did not combine it with faith.” (i.e. they were unfaithful to the gospel as evidenced by their disobedience.) Heb 4:6 “It still remains that some will enter that rest, and THOSE WHO FORMERLY HAD THE GOSPEL PREACHED TO THEM (i.e. all those Moses led out of Egypt; 3:16) DID NOT GO IN, BECAUSE OF THEIR DISOBEDIENCE.” (disobedience to what?) Heb 4:11 “Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, SO THAT NO ONE WILL FALL (future tense) BY FOLLOWING THEIR EXAMPLE OF DISOBEDIENCE.” (it would appear that this is a warning that whatever Israel in the wilderness was disobedient to, we need to be obedient to it………then, it would be important to know what it was that they disobeyed. Reading ahead to v 12…..it must be “the word of God”……..where would one find that?). Heb 4:12 For the WORD OF GOD is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Also…….have you noticed the word “gospel” in the Revelation? Rev 14:6 “Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had THE ETERNAL GOSPEL to proclaim to those who live on the earth--to every nation, tribe, language and people.” Notice…..it does not say the “NT gospel”, it is the “eternal gospel”……it is the same gospel that Moses preached in the wilderness in Heb 4:2,6 (the Song of Moses); it is the same gospel that Y’shua preached (the Song of the Lamb) and it is to reach every nation, tribe, language and people…….the gospel that Moses preached and the gospel which Y’shua preached, are one and the same and meant for the whole world for all time. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb………Bub |
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53 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54516 | ||
Dear Indiana..... I did not say that the word "gospel" was the word "Torah". The word "gospel" in Heb 4 is referring to Torah. Hebrews is saying that Moses taught the "gospel" to the people he brought out of Egypt and then goes on to say it is the same gospel that was taught unto "us". Heb 4:2 "FOR UNTO US (new testament types) WAS THE GOSPEL PREACHED AS WELL AS UNTO THEM (the old testament types)." What then was and is this gospel that both groups received? Bub |
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54 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54525 | ||
Dear John: You quoted, “Col 2:16,17 "Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." What exactly were you trying to convey to me……keeping in mind that the topic at hand was “hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ”. (v8). Thanks………Bub |
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55 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54577 | ||
Dear Indiana, Please see Lev 26 for the good news, the bad news and the grace of the LORD. Notice that the "good news" bottom line is "I will set my tabernacle among you....and I will walk among you, and will be your God, and you shall be my people." (Lev 26:11-12). This promise of the "good news" of Lev 26 is fullfilled in Rev 21:3 practically verbatim. There's a lot of "Jewishness" going on in the Revelation. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb.....Bub |
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56 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54603 | ||
Dear Indiana...... Done deal Steve.....the babies are officially in bed. Bub |
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57 | Self control, and Spirit control? | Ephesians | bubbatate | 52890 | ||
Dear 4me, I would like to expand further on the “answer you like”, which was excellent. What is the “truth and wisdom” we need? What is “His way” and “His authority” to which we must submit? First of all….what does the LORD say about His Spirit? That would be the first thing one would search out in contemplating a “Holy Spirit” dilemma. The LORD tells us exactly how His Spirit operates in Eze 36:26-27. I have always found it odd that I never heard a preacher quote Eze 36:26-27 when expounding on the Holy Spirit. I did see it quoted on the Forum but the quoter stopped with “follow my decrees” and omitted the last part, “and be careful to keep my laws”. My guess is that the offensive word “laws” must be avoided at all cost….just a guess. Eze 36:26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27: And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. (Affirmed in Rev 14:2.) Eze 11:19 I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh. 20: Then they will follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. They will be my people, and I will be their God. (Affirmed in Rev 21:3.) This the very essence of being “born again”? (See Jn 3:8 below). “Born again” is synonymous with “Born of the Spirit”. Jn 3:3 In reply Y’shua declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again……7: You should not be surprised at my saying, You must be born again. 8: The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." What can one see if he’s born of the Spirit? The Kingdom of God (Jn 3:3 above). Can there be a kingdom without a king or a king who does not “rule”, i.e. make rules, or “laws”…..to explain what is expected of his subjects, or servants? Look at Isa 2:2-3 (below) concerning “the last days”…..”the Torah (law or teachings) will go out from Zion……Jerusalem”, the capital of the Kingdom to which “all nations” will go to learn the King’s “ways…..his paths”. To be submissive to the King is to learn His ways “so that we may walk in His paths”. The Holy Spirit makes it easy……He moves us to do this if we choose to submit. Isa 2:2-3 “In the last days the mountain of the LORD's temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. 3: Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law (Torah, teachings) will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD (Torah, teachings) from Jerusalem. Peter says in 1Pe 1:22, “…you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth….. 23: For you have been born again….through the living and enduring word of God (Torah, teachings).” Remember, there was no “New Testament” for the first generation believers to refer to. The original question to which I am responding asks….”How is it then, that we are to be both self controlled, and be filled (controlled) by the Holy Spirit?” As Peter says above, purify yourself by obeying the truth, this is the self control. What is the truth according to Peter? “The living and enduring word of God.” Where did the first generation believers find the living and enduring word of God? In the Law and the Prophets…..every “Thus saith the LORD” is His word as affirmed by Y’shua in Mt 4:4 “Y’shua answered (Satan), "It is written: Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God." Right there Y’shua says to live in accordance with “thus saith the LORD”……why would He quote Dt 8:3, especially to Satan? What is the “sword of the Spirit” according to Paul (below)? “The word of God” (Torah, teachings); again remembering there was no “New Testament”…..Paul wasn’t writing “the word of God”….he was writing about “the word of God”. Eph 6:11 “Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes…….17: Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.” What was revealed to John in the Revelation concerning getting victory over “the beast”? Rev 15:2 “And I saw…..those who had been victorious over the beast and his image and over the number of his name…..3: They….sang the song of Moses (see Dt 31:19, 24, and 30…the song is the Torah) the servant of God and the song of the Lamb (see Rev 19:30…”His name is “the Word of God”; Torah). This agrees with Y’shua’s victory over Satan in Mt 4:4 (above). There’s more………continued below: |
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58 | Phil 3:2/ Legalism | Phil 3:2 | bubbatate | 54394 | ||
Hank, Too bad the paganism in christianity doesn't bother you as much as Judaism. Bub |
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59 | Phil 3:2/ Legalism | Phil 3:2 | bubbatate | 54452 | ||
Dear Joe….. As for, “Oh, here it comes! The old "Constantine corrupted that olde tyme religion" line of thinking.” God forbid that the history of your religion be explored! I’d be embarrassed to look at it too. As for my having “an allergic reaction to the epistle to the Hebrews”, I beg to differ, I think it’s a great epistle…..check out Steve’s “allergic reaction” to the word “gospel” in Hebrews 4:2 and 6……why don’t you check it out for yourself, I’m sure you allergies will kick up as well. As for, “Please be honest and forthright enough to tell us the name of the body in which you "Sing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb." ………if you need a “label” I can’t help you out……but I’ll work on one…….maybe the “nikao crew”. Still singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb………Bub |
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60 | Phil 3:2/ Legalism | Phil 3:2 | bubbatate | 54455 | ||
Dear Hank, In response to your comments: You said, “I don't know precisely what you are trying to teach on this forum.” Mt 5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and TEACHES others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and TEACHES these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. MT 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, [20] and TEACHING THEM TO OBEY EVERYTHING COMMANDED YOU. “ Since Y’shua was addressing Jewish guys……what was commanded of them was within the context of Judaism……that’s what they were to teach. Ever notice that when Christians quote the “great commission” they totally ignore v 20? Many don’t even know that it’s there. Re: “but it (what I am attempting to teach) gives every appearance to my mind to be something other than orthodoxy”. Define “orthodoxy”? Do you mean man made tradition? If so, you’d better believe I’m not trying to teach orthodoxy! As for: “And I don't know what your definition of Christianty (sic) is” Briefly put, it is the culmination of the attempt to remove all things Jewish from the belief system that characterized the first generation congregation. When things got hot for the Jews circa 66AD…….a certain faction of this heretofore strictly Jewish sect (see Acts 24:5; 24:14; 28:22) sought to remove all associations with anything that might have pegged them as “Jewish”, thereby saving their chicken necks……voila……christianity……”hey, we’re just a bunch of Greeks……look, even our lord is Greek, he’s “iesous”…….he used to be Jewish but he repented.” You continue: “mine (definition of Christianity) is based on the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ and the inspired writers of the New Testament”. Are you sure you don’t mean on the “selected” teachings…….or “inferred” teachings? And then, “And to say that the Christianity of the Bible contains paganism is pernicious heresy and blasphemy, regardless of who says it, whether you or an angel from heaven.” I don’t believe I said that the Bible promotes paganism; in fact it is vehemently opposed to any taint of paganism………Christianity, however, has no problem with it……what are the holiest days of the Christian calendar? From whence cometh they? Respectfully submitted……….Bub |
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